John, post: 440665, member: 791 wrote: Oh, you are so right.
I think we need a new "law"..... everybody here must wear a body cam when venturing into the field. After all, it is sometimes impossible to predict what will happen when. Other times, we can foresee "common sense" leave when the person is about to do something.... well,.... kinda stupid. And that is how people wind up on Americas funniest videos and on What could Go Wrong on Reddit.
I don't want the whole world seeing me run from a hornet's nest screaming like a 7 year old girl....
Falls from ladders is high on the list of injury accident causes involving middle aged men. My Grandfather was killed by the injuries from falling off a ladder at work in 1951.
Cut the damned fence, Cal Fire would have an entire strike team (including vehicles) through that fence in about 2 minutes. You are a Land Surveyor, not a monkey. Or you can make it your client's problem. I needed to survey a ridge, can't see two feet much less walk through there. I asked the Forest manager to have it cleared...a crew went in there and got it done fast, have to tell the Captain, it's not fire line otherwise they'll literally grub it down to bare dirt.
I was thinking of a telescoping ladder, too. But you'll need two of them won't you?
paden cash, post: 440666, member: 20 wrote: I don't want the whole world seeing me run from a hornet's nest screaming like a 7 year old girl....
C'mon now, that's exactly what makes good and funny videos.:D
Go get the access you need from the owner whoever. Don't act like a tenderfoot or some kind if surveyor seal op.
Path of least resistance.
Kent McMillan, post: 440615, member: 3 wrote: One of the downsides of modern life is definitely the proliferation of 8 ft. tall deer-proof fences. I'm sure they serve a purpose, but I consider them dangerous to climb, particularly when the top of the fence is a couple of strands of sharp four-point barbed wire to discourage just that. I have a feeling that the US Border Patrol probably knows all the best low-tech solutions. I'm also certain that the jet pack used in California is not locally available.
Does anyone have a portable gadget or device they use for this? The aluminum jiggers that latch onto a steel t-post just don't look sufficiently secure to me and climbing the mesh wire with gloves on to negotiate the top strands is feasible, but not really optimal.
There are some cheap and hard to climb game fence wires. But if it's knotted wire of sufficient strength for its intended purpose, and they put a sufficient number of posts for the intended purpose, then it's easy to climb. Just need a blanket or something to cover the barb wire added at top. If it's cheap and/or not enough posts, then nothing you hang on it will help much. Cutting it would not be wise in any event unless you have special tools to repair it (again if correctly installed, it has a lot of tension on it, making it easy to climb).
As the rancher told me back in 92, don't show up on my ranch without your 4-wheeler; in it there are clips, staples, repair wire, come-along, shovel, hammer, fence pliers, everything you need, lots of game fences, 4-wheeler to gate, open it, 4-wheeler back; if you go over, do it at a brace panel, otherwise go under, if you can't figure out that losten fence with tools then put back together after you go through and back. Thats how it's done,,,,,,,,do it all the time,,,,,
https://www.loink.com/product/Safe-T-Stepper/19
I have used this for years. It seems "dinky" but if you double check to make sure it is on correctly, it's rock solid. Pro-tip - If you ever need to pull a t-post out of the ground, just turn it upside down and use a jack.
I would not climb the fence using a ladder.
I certainly would not cut the fence to get in. ( if I was the owner of the fence, I would be pissed )
I would talk to the landowner, and get permission to get in.
I have found when you talk to landowners, they give permission, they really appreciate the asking.
If they say no, I move on to the next corner.
As I recall from previous posts by Kent, it might be a 15 mile journey to access the other side of the fence. Thus, the need for an alternate method. Going under is my favorite strategy if there is any reasonable way to make that happen. Normally, there is a dry creek bed where there is some manuevering room.
FairleyWell, post: 440691, member: 12279 wrote: https://www.loink.com/product/Safe-T-Stepper/19
I have used this for years. It seems "dinky" but if you double check to make sure it is on correctly, it's rock solid. Pro-tip - If you ever need to pull a t-post out of the ground, just turn it upside down and use a jack.
I seem to remember someone posting on here saying they used that and it slipped on them. Not sure if they were hurt or not. They claimed they would never use it again.
https://austin.craigslist.org/snw/d/1993-diahatsu-4x4-mini/6225632964.html
or you could just stick this on the back of the tundra. already has tool boxes built in too:
https://austin.craigslist.org/hvo/d/bed-for-bucket-truck/6245160162.html
Holy Cow, post: 440697, member: 50 wrote: As I recall from previous posts by Kent, it might be a 15 mile journey to access the other side of the fence. Thus, the need for an alternate method. Going under is my favorite strategy if there is any reasonable way to make that happen. Normally, there is a dry creek bed where there is some manuevering room.
15 miles doesn't seem to be a factor in a state like Texas or other places that come to mind.
Was merely repeating Kent's excuse from a thread a long time ago.
You could possibly use a rope ladder...
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=rope+ladders&qpvt=rope+ladders&qpvt=rope+ladders&qpvt=rope+ladders&FORM=IGRE
You could stake it from the near side, throw it over near a stanchion, reach through and stake it on the far side....
I've done alot of things... Carry a Hooyman saw, find a tree near the fence, and limb the tree, leaving some branches sticking out a few inches. Climb the tree, over we go... Carry a ROPE, with a few knots, and get back over. But, I realize I am not a spring chicken any more... I may have to find another means.
If these work well, I could see it. But, it looks too complicated.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330Lbs-10-5FT-11-Steps-Aluminum-Telescoping-Collapsible-Extension-Ladder-US-BP-/112228952640
The more I think about it, the more I realize, I maybe should think about manufacturing my replacement... I'm getting too old and crochety to do this for alot more years....
I guess some might of saw this coming eventually
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I got it figured out for you, get a Drone slap some reflection tape on it, fly it over to the corner land on the corner take a prismless shot on the drone.
Duane Frymire, post: 440684, member: 110 wrote: There are some cheap and hard to climb game fence wires. But if it's knotted wire of sufficient strength for its intended purpose, and they put a sufficient number of posts for the intended purpose, then it's easy to climb. Just need a blanket or something to cover the barb wire added at top. If it's cheap and/or not enough posts, then nothing you hang on it will help much. Cutting it would not be wise in any event unless you have special tools to repair it (again if correctly installed, it has a lot of tension on it, making it easy to climb).
Yes, I think that the blanket for the top strands is the winner. It's good quality fencing and the corner that I falls about 20 ft. on the other side is near a corner with a pipe post in the fence.
I understand your conundrum Kent. Most of the high game fences are stretched very tight, and cutting one would leave a definite hole that would not be repairable without proper tools and several hours worth of effort. Digging under one is a good way to get yourself banned from the property forever, as that opens a place for deer to escape, or predators to enter more easily than they could on their own. And yes, sometimes it may be an hour and a half hike or ATV ride to the corner from the inside of the fence, but only a 10 minute truck ride to the outside of the fence. I personally do not like shooting an EDM through a fence, my luck is bad enough as it is. The idea that has been crossing my mind is to look for a rope ladder of some kind I can throw the top rope part of up and around the top of the post, with enough slack to securely tie it to the cross piece. A second rope ladder for the other side. My concern is if the top of the fence will hold my weight as the rope pulls against it as I climb. BTW, the guy in the picture is Maxey, my boss... 
