Anyone know the Surveyor? Yikes!!

From the news release, glad he is safe but really hurts to see how consumed people are with their boundaries.

"A surveyor was on the property line with the group when the shooting happened, but managed to get away safely"

An update to the story...they caught the guy 5 1/2 hours away in New Mexico. Thankfully.

Whoa.

Close call.

I have not seen any news story that mentions the land surveyor. The shooter was not a land owner, but was staying at the Herbal Gardens Wellness as a caregiver to his girlfriend. She witnessed the shooting and was in his vehicle when he was arrested New Mexico yesterday.

Here is an investigative report by KOAA, a local TV station regarding the longstanding land dispute.

https://www.koaa.com/news/news5-investigates/lengthy-neighbors-dispute-investigators-say-led-to-deadly-shooting

The shooter's mugshot is scary as hell.

>The shooter was not a land owner

Say what? Makes no sense if the root cause was a boundary dispute as reported.

I realize we all say things like, "I can't believe...", or "I don't understand why people get so upset over property boundaries", and the comments are more of a reaction than an attempt at insight. However, one of the numerous lectures I give my party chiefs goes something like:

There have been innumerable wars fought over boundaries. Assume that clients and abutters are like most humans throughout history, willing to die over an inch of ground. Be surprised when people find amicable solutions to boundary disputes.

It doesn't make any sense even if he were a land owner.

Also, maybe the guy didn't try to kill the surveyor since he wasn't one of the owners.

Easements are very powerful. The average citizen has no comprehension of the power of them. Yet, people gladly sign them routinely in order to accomplish some immediate goal or necessity.

https://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/2023/11/21/breaking-news-custer-county-murder-suspect-taken-into-custody-in-new-mexico/

The above account includes the names and ages of the victims.

The following account says the surveyor ran a half-mile to get away from the scene. No name for the surveyor is provided.

https://sentinelcolorado.com/0trending/property-dispute-in-colorado-leaves-3-dead-1-critically-wounded-and-suspect-on-the-run/

Westcliffe is a fiesty neighborhood, as even the newspapers are battling with each other.

https://coloradosun.com/2023/10/03/westcliffe-colorado-newspaper-war/

Oh, my! I will not provide a link to the story of more dissension in the general vicinity of Westcliffe. The headlines tend to use terms that politically correct media no longer use. Simply search for Tenacious Unicorn Ranch. Oh, my!

Tried comparing Google Maps to the view of the properties and lanes provided in the stories. There is a very substantial building at lat 38.218084, long -105.364215. That appears to be on the triangle to the east of the non-profit triangular tract. Can't see anything substantial of the non-profit tract.

Agree.

Facts:

The killer’s actions will ultimately have ZERO impact on the easement rights of the surrounding properties, even if a court decision/declaration has not yet been finalized.

It appears that they have been but to the dismay of an idiot.

The killer’s actions will not aide in the suffering and/or recovery of any PTSD patients.

Thank you Gene, for the picture you posted

There was a Surveyor working there and when the gunfire broke out he ran a half mile to the nearest house.

If I had been the surveyor and attempted to run a half-mile, the first ambulance on scene would have been needed about two hundred yards away where I would have been found gasping for air until I stopped......permanently.

Actually, I would have turned to the gunman and requested his name and address so I would have someone alive to send my invoice for services rendered. No future in running.