Chalk, Crayon or a Small Circle template they can use if they can't "Paint within the lines" by themselves.
I made a template out of a piece of cardboard and insisted one of our Survey assistants had to use it whenever he used paint. After a few months, and about 3 pieces of cardboard, he could do it without the template. I've seen templates for numbers too, but general instruction is to use the numbers on the sketch plan, not the ground. If a Forman wants numbered BM's it's a site he controls and big paint markings usually aren't out of place
In my experience, construction guys, pipeliners, interns, and newbies paint the shyte out of everything. On a construction site, go for it. In the middle of the woods, just flagging is best. In neighborhoods and streets, just a paint dot, small triangle or circle, or flagging is all that's needed.
Mark Mayer, post: 406797, member: 424 wrote:
If your crew has good documentation of the control locations they will feel less need to mark it up so that it can't be missed while driving by.
It amazes me how many party chiefs don't make a few quick reference ties from a traverse point, so they can easily recover it at a later date.
Field Dog, post: 407351, member: 9186 wrote: It amazes me how many party chiefs don't make a few quick reference ties from a traverse point, so they can easily recover it at a later date.
Nailed it Dog.
I'm partial to using nail polish to paint a small reference distance to a point and book it with a quicky compass bearing. Pretty hard to go too crazy with one of those itsy bitsy brushes and as long as the PC doesn't use it up painting up their toenails, should all be good.
Field Dog, post: 407351, member: 9186 wrote: It amazes me how many party chiefs don't make a few quick reference ties from a traverse point, so they can easily recover it at a later date.
Williwaw, post: 407360, member: 7066 wrote: Nailed it Dog.
I don't think that it is always fair to push these things down to the PC. If the survey is topography, or the site has ever been topo'd as part of the design process, then there will be a great treasure trove of previously tied references available. There are many quick, simple ways for the office to produce a very nice control sketch from that. In our digital age, in many cases, that may be the more efficient way to skin this cat. The office should be reviewing, adjusting, documenting control anyway.
The white paint lasts a lot longer than the flo paint. We have upside down spray chalk too.
Fire Captains run the gammet from super anal to they watch TV all day. We did a survey at a Fire Station (tie-ing in monitoring wells), installed a few control points, I painted a small triangle and number, nothing unusual. After we were done that Captain came out and very politely asked if we were done, I said yes, then he made his firefighters wire brush the paint off of the pavement, fortunately it was fairly fresh flo pink so it came off easy. My triangles and numbers are small, not the visible from space things I've seen. I'm not a fan of the poka dot thing either, that is ridiculous.
That is the only time it's been an issue, every other fire station I have topo'd has generated no complaints. The only other complaint I am aware of was a station that another surveyor painted dots everywhere. I understand the rationale but it seems ridiculous to me, I never felt the need to paint dots everywhere.
This stuff fades in about 30-35 days, as long as it is in an area that gets good sunshine. I've had dots that I put in dark alleys, stick around for several months. http://aervoe.com/paints_coatings/Fade-Out-Marker.html
How about nothing? Why can't you navigate to desired locations with today's background maps with your marks superimposed? Works for me.
Keel, paint pen or chalk for that matter and then hit it with some clear acrylic. I've even used regular marker and then sprayed it with clear coat. It will stay and not appear obnoxious. We used to do a lot of big construction projects and found that to work. Broom it off and you can easily find it.
Everyone has most everything I could say covered, except to threaten to use the blood of the last guy to mark the next control point if it is marked to large... Only other thing I could think to recommend would be a livestock crayon, and since I don't work where it is really cold, i don't know how well it would do. But they are usually in 1" round stocks, in bright colors, and fade away in about 20 days. I would think you could find them at a feed store.
I have a current client that apparently needs floglo Christmas trees to mark his monuments.
There are tpost or chain link post standing 4 to 5 feet by all his property corners and he still claims he can not find them.
:manhole:
A Harris, post: 407497, member: 81 wrote: I have a current client that apparently needs floglo Christmas trees to mark his monuments.
There are tpost or chain link post standing 4 to 5 feet by all his property corners and he still claims he can not find them.
:manhole:
Have you threatened to tie weather balloons with pink nylon rope to the chain link posts?
I put this paint here; the summer of 94; I took the picture today.
That poster: RADAR, sure is a swell guy
A Harris, post: 407497, member: 81 wrote: There are tpost or chain link post standing 4 to 5 feet by all his property corners and he still claims he can not find them
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
