I received a notice in the mail yesterday informing me that the DOT will be performing surveys on or near my property for a bridge replacement project. This morning I emailed the supervising PLS for the firm doing the work asking for a specific date and scope. I was up front with the fact that I am a PLS also. He replied that his crew would be there today. I replied that I don't believe less than 24 hours is what our state law means by "reasonable notice". It seems he was mistaken. His crew won't be there til after Thanksgiving. This will be an interesting ride in the "other lane". Wish me luck.
Me. "What's the difference?"
T.C. Carroll "It's the difference between right and wrong!"
Hope your karma factor is in your favor........:clink:
You should spend Thanksgiving Holiday driving rebar of various sizes along the ROW of your property. Make the other PLS earn his money.
Stacy Carroll, post: 455983, member: 150 wrote: I received a notice in the mail yesterday informing me that the DOT will be performing surveys on or near my property for a bridge replacement project. This morning I emailed the supervising PLS for the firm doing the work asking for a specific date and scope. I was up front with the fact that I am a PLS also. He replied that his crew would be there today. I replied that I don't believe less than 24 hours is what our state law means by "reasonable notice". It seems he was mistaken. His crew won't be there til after Thanksgiving. This will be an interesting ride in the "other lane". Wish me luck.
You evidently missed my post about my septic tank being stolen. The Contract says the contractor will contact each landowner a minumum of two days in advance to locate sewer lines and septic tanks before performing any installation of the new sewer line on private property. Neither the Contractor or the Engineering firm supervising the contract have ever contacted any of the affected landowners. Most landowners are unaware that Contractors don't have a right to come on your property without permission.
My delima now is the Sewer Board won't allow the Contractor to install sewer tap into lots without permanent structures and I don't have a septic system anymore.
Now in Montana there is a law regarding Surveyors access to property for surveying purposes. They can access your property to survey, but they have to send you a certified letter telling you who, what, where, and why they will be surveying on your property.
My experience with the DOT is they put aluminum capped monuments all over with no indication what they are for. You won't know if they're property corners or control monuments unless you get a set of R/W plans from them. Which by the way aren't sealed or filed by the supervising PLS. Hopefully in your case it's a simple bridge replacement and not a major redo of the bridge approaches. Good Luck!
In Georgia we do not have "Right of Entry" UNLESS you are working for the DOT. They do have to give notice like Stacy said though. I wouldn't do anything to cause extra headaches for the surveyor/engineer, I would ask, as a professional courtesy, to review his determination of property lines, any additional right-of-way and/or easements.
Andy
In Colorado, the DOT gets a signed Permission to Enter form filled out for each property they need to come on.
Tom Adams, post: 456034, member: 7285 wrote: In Colorado, the DOT gets a signed Permission to Enter form filled out for each property they need to come on.
Same in SDDOT but for topo purposes. Boundary work has right of entry per state statute for all surveyors.
In Arizona the DOT d*** near has to own the property to set foot on it. When they upgrade a TI they purchase chunks of property around it, build the new improvements, and abandon the "excess" property. Sometimes they monument one (or more) of the resultant boundaries ...
Scott Ellis, post: 455990, member: 7154 wrote: You should spend Thanksgiving Holiday driving rebar of various sizes along the ROW of your property. Make the other PLS earn his money.
Ooooohh! Mean! But could be pretty entertaining.
Scott Ellis, post: 455990, member: 7154 wrote: You should spend Thanksgiving Holiday driving rebar of various sizes along the ROW of your property. Make the other PLS earn his money.
eapls2708, post: 456052, member: 589 wrote: Ooooohh! Mean! But could be pretty entertaining.
Don't space 'em out. Make sure to pincushion 'em or he'll never believe it.
eapls2708, post: 456052, member: 589 wrote: Ooooohh! Mean! But could be pretty entertaining.
Yeah, but they'll probably accept one of them
I won't harass or hinder the survey crew as long as they respect our property and follow the law. Well, maybe a little bit if they want to swap some surveying stories. I have been that crew going out to face landowners who may not like what's going on. "It'll all come out in the wash"
Me. "What's the difference?"
T.C. Carroll "It's the difference between right and wrong!"
Your R.O.E. Statute is ??Reasonable Notice?? That is kind of open to interpretation...
Rankin_File, post: 456109, member: 101 wrote: Your R.O.E. Statute is ??Reasonable Notice?? That is kind of open to interpretation...
The only Right of Entry we have applies to DOT or other government entity. And yes, "Reasonable Notice" has no hard fast rule. As vague as it is, less than 24 hours doesn't fit.
Me. "What's the difference?"
T.C. Carroll "It's the difference between right and wrong!"
Same as in NY, reasonable notice. It is very vague and doesn't define by mail, in person or door hanger. I've never run into a problem with a landowner denying me entry. But I figure if I do, I'll just give them notice at that time and come back tomorrow.
Hope you own a mean dog...or can borrow one with little notice. 😉
Tell 'em your septic tank story. And maybe bring hot cocoa at lunch.
Make long term acquaintances out of 'em.
Th
Nate The Surveyor, post: 456190, member: 291 wrote: Tell 'em your septic tank story. And maybe bring hot cocoa at lunch.
Make long term acquaintances out of 'em.
The septic tank saga goes on Monday at 6PM. Stay tuned for more news.