I am using Carlson 2013. I am trying to do a simple insert of 1 drawing into another drawing. Both drawings are using the same units setting (decimal feet-US feet) and distances in each drawing that SHOULD be the same...ARE the same.
However..when I insert dwg B into dwg A (my basemap).....the point symbols (the little "x's" that are the point symbol) come in at the correct location (where the point nodes should be) but the linework (and point attributes) are scaled from the drawing origin (0,0) by 12.
So....for some reason when it inserts...it is automatically scaling the linework and attributes by 12.....and throwing my linework over into (roughly)...just off the westerly coast of Morocco.
Typically when I insert..I type in "insert"..and the "insert dialouge box" comes up which allows you to set what the "insertion point" is........what the "scale factor", if aother than 1, is.......and "rotation". These settings are all correct (0,0...no scale factor...and no rotation).
Is there somewhere that I can alter the insert settings specifically?? Particulary "insertion scale".
Please help me to STOP banging my head on the wall!!
Jason
Well ,maybe, check to see if 'inunits' = 2. Maybe.
"insunits" = (0) in both drawings.
I'm stumped at this point.
I think the factor of 12 is a clue - think architects units. Did one of the drawings start out from an architect and maybe not all the settings got changed properly?
I know Dave......it's a x12 scale.....and the factor the other direction is .0833333.......so yes...we caught that (and initially just thought that one was set to architecual units) however..these are both dwgs I created and have confirmed they are both set to same units. I am still baffled....and right now on phone with Carson tech support....and he seems baffled to (with my drawing files in hand).
The things is.....I can do what I need to do.....if I simply export the crd file in the dwg with the new work...into my larger dwg (my basemap)...they come in right where they need to be.....but if you try and insert the linework..it scales 12x.
I could move on...but I NEED TO KNOW WHY....lol.
please post a solution when you find one. I have had this problem too.
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> I could move on...but I NEED TO KNOW WHY....lol.
That is the difference between a professional and a CAD guru. The latter just alters things until it looks right. The former digs in and figures out how to do it right the next time.
My suggestion.
Open both drawings.
In Drawing "B"
CNTRL +A
CNTRL +C
CNTRL +TAB (to switch to Drawing "A")
Right Click -> Clipboard -> Paste to original coordinates.
Move on to the next drawing and get some work done.
Should this happen a second time, stop work and resolve.
P.S. this is slightly different than inserting one drawing into another, but can be much cleaner if you are not after importing the fonts, linetypes, unused layers, settings, ect. ect.
> "insunits" = (0) in both drawings.
Also check these variables:
- InsUnitsDefSource
- InsUnitsDefTarget
From AutoCAD on-line help:
>INSUNITSDEFSOURCE (System Variable) - Sets source content units value when INSUNITS is set to 0. Initial value: 1
>INSUNITSDEFTARGET (System Variable) - Sets target drawing units value when INSUNITS is set to 0. Initial value: 1
>Valid range is 0 to 20.
>0 - Unspecified (No units)
>1 - Inches
>2 - Feet
>3 - Miles
>4 - Millimeters
>5 - Centimeters
>6 - Meters
>7 - Kilometers
>8 - Microinches
>9 - Mils
>10 - Yards
>11 - Angstroms
>12 - Nanometers
>13 - Microns
>14 - Decimeters
>15 - Dekameters
>16 - Hectometers
>17 - Gigameters
>18 - Astronomical Units
>19 - Light Years
>20 - Parsecs
"Insertion units".
Sounds a little dirty to me.
Thanx for all the responses.
Turns out...I had an unspecified drawing corruption jn the basemap.
Started new dwg...imported all point into it...wblocked all linework....
Inserted into new drawing....everything is fine now. No insertion issues.
I had the same issue and solved it.
My post here:
https://surveyorconnect.com/index.php?mode=thread&id=187794#p187833
The solution here:
https://surveyorconnect.com/index.php?mode=thread&id=187970#p187994