paden cash, post: 360460, member: 20 wrote: This conversation reminded of the gear-head I use to work with in the mid-eighties that pronounced 'DOS' as 'dose' ....drove me nuts.:pinch:
I also remember when Windows came out (we were running DOS based AutoCAD R10 I think) I was pretty well convinced Windows was a "commercial virus" and Bill Gates was the devil.
The years have proven me correct.
Dos + uno = tres, si?
DOS is not gone in Windows. You can still use DOS commands in Windows 7, 8 and 10
Just go to your start button.
Click in the "Search programs and files" box at bottom
type cmd
press enter
Now you at the DOS prompt., enjoy.
leegreen, post: 360465, member: 2332 wrote: DOS is not gone in Windows. You can still use DOS commands in Windows 7, 8 and 10
Just go to your start button.
Click in the "Search programs and files" box at bottom
type cmd
press enter
Now you at the DOS prompt., enjoy.
Lee:
I never really thought about it, and use CMD all the time.
So I tried navigating to where I put solar.exe and tried to run it right from the command window. It found it ok but failed to run it because it wasn't a 64 bit version program. So I think i'm "stuck" with dosbox.
No biggy; I'm still getting some weird small differences in the Azimuth numbers between solar.exe and the MICA ephemeris data, but the numbers are very close, so I'm inclined to go forward using the program. If there's a way to decompile an .exe, it's probably possible to see how they're getting/producing their ephemeris data, but that's way above my pay grade, so I'm not going there.
You have to be somewhat older to remember DOS, and you have to be really old (like me) to remember the "Fun With Dick and Jane" (and Spot) reader from the first grade. With that in mind:
C:/DOS
C:/DOS/RUN
RUN/DOS/RUN
I still keep my Van Wolverton "Running MS-DOS" thru v4 handy for emergencies.;-)
Carlson Surveyor1 program operates in DOS, best COGO ever, use every day.
B-)
Back in the eighties at the engineer's office we used the ol' Wangs. Then we got this HP (I think) that actually had a (green crt) graphic interface and some rudimentary COGO, and I think it used a floppy disk. I don't remember much about it as the drafting department was using it exclusively for their subdivision calcs...
Anyway, the computer age was upon us and whether I liked it or not, my HP41's days were numbered. One of the guys in the office circulated a thin paperback titled "Definitions for the Computer Age" and it was, indeed, a book of definitions. Things like RAM and ROM and hard drive and floppy drive were spelled out for us ignorant surveyors so we wouldn't feel like a conversation was escaping us. I remember seeing the term "search engine" and my mechanically inclined brain portion got excited about "engines"....but who would ever name their engine Archie or Veronica??
One definition in particular made me realize the author had a good sense of humor. Under the term endless loop the definition read "see loop, endless". Sure enough, if you looked up loop, endless it read "see endless loop".....
Ok, with all the nostalgia, let's see if anyone recognizes this. There once was a time I had it memorized.
37744:
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100376
116162
2
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paden cash, post: 360509, member: 20 wrote: One of the guys in the office circulated a thin paperback titled "Definitions for the Computer Age" and it was, indeed, a book of definitions. Things like RAM and ROM and hard drive and floppy drive were spelled out for us ignorant surveyors so we wouldn't feel like a conversation was escaping us.
We were talking about aerial imaging in one of our project manager's office the other day and throwing around terminology; he walked over to his white board and in large green letters wrote ENGLISH PLEASE!
Bill93, post: 360513, member: 87 wrote: Ok, with all the nostalgia, let's see if anyone recognizes this. There once was a time I had it memorized.
Apparently we don't have any other PDP-11 computer users from the 1970's on this thread. The early machines had no boot ROM or BIOS. The numbers I posted above were what you had to hand-enter on switches (in octal) in order to make the machine smart enough to read paper tape. The first tape you ran in was a smarter loader that could next load the BASIC interpreter tape so you could then load your program tape, and if applicable, a data tape.
Bill93, post: 360616, member: 87 wrote: Apparently we don't have any other PDP-11 computer users from the 1970's on this thread. The early machines had no boot ROM or BIOS. The numbers I posted above were what you had to hand-enter on switches (in octal) in order to make the machine smart enough to read paper tape. The first tape you ran in was a smarter loader that could next load the BASIC interpreter tape so you could then load your program tape, and if applicable, a data tape.
My computer usage started in the early 80's, so I never went through this process. However, I do understand the methodology. The Apple IIc computer that I used in junior high had only its BASIC language available upon power up. So, to use the machine, you had to have the floppy disk drive connected to the serial port before you powered up the machine, AND you had to have the DOS disk in the drive. Then, once you powered up, the machine would read the info from the floppy disk that would give it the instructions on how to read other floppy disks. And from there, you would load in further data, depending upon what you wanted to do. It was quite a process!
The test bench I ran from '84 - '87 in the Navy had a tape loader and a large drum hard drive. It could only have one program loaded at a time; to work on the bench itself you had to load the diagnostic software from the tapes, then reload the actual maintenance software for the box when you were finished. Fortunately, all of the electronics in the IM-3 (avionics maintenance) division required that we keep our A/C cranking, which was nice when it was 105 degrees out near the equator. The squadron level guys loved coming to our shop; they could cool off and enjoy a cold soda.
