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Heads Up!

Loyal and I are concerned that there is something going wrong (Loyal says Goofy) in OPUS today (Thurs 25 May 2017).

Jobs that used to process are failing. (But we have successful solutions on the same data sets from previous weeks.)

We have ruled out midnight crossings, we have checked the local stations for crazy stuff and all the other usual stuff.

Some RS jobs and some STATIC jobs will still process....


 
Posted : May 25, 2017 2:48 pm
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Well, NGS did some work last Friday on OPUS and OPUS Projects. The notice was still there over the weekend so I clicked on OPUS. There was a note that they had done some maintenance, but nothing that should impact how OPUS worked.

I thought that disclaimer a bit odd.


 
Posted : May 25, 2017 3:01 pm
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I ran one Monday and saw the notice. The results (precise orbits) were very close to the Rapid orbits results I'd gotten on it a couple weeks earlier. The report was different in that it attached an XML report to the ordinary email of the extended report and I hadn't seen that before.


 
Posted : May 25, 2017 4:10 pm
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I re-ran that same file and it processed fine. It used one different CORS and gave me a position 2 mm different horizontal and 1 mm vertical. No XML attached.


 
Posted : May 25, 2017 4:30 pm
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I have not done any OPUS this week. I checked the CORS ftp site and the folders seem to be filling in normally with data. Do they still have a West Coast CORS data site?

Paul in PA


 
Posted : May 25, 2017 4:44 pm

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Bill93, post: 429936, member: 87 wrote: I ran one Monday and saw the notice. The results (precise orbits) were very close to the Rapid orbits results I'd gotten on it a couple weeks earlier. The report was different in that it attached an XML report to the ordinary email of the extended report and I hadn't seen that before.

The XML report is not an option with the extended output. I always select the extended output, but every so often the email includes the XML report as an attachment.

I reran a 6 1/2 hour session from last October and found a slight difference with the previous solution that used rapid orbits. The difference was 2mm, 2mm, 1mm (NEU), but one of the CORS stations changed from P041 to DSRC. I resent requesting P041 be used and the differences are 1mm, 2mm, 7mm (NEU).


 
Posted : May 25, 2017 4:46 pm
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The OPUS message from Tuesday is at https://geodesy.noaa.gov/sitemsgs/OPUS/archive/OPUSmsg-Linux.shtml when the OPUS code was migrated.

OPUS had some trouble downstream with organizing the files users opted to share, but no other problems proven yet.


 
Posted : May 25, 2017 5:55 pm
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I ran one today from yesterday's data, and it hits an RTN position within 0.05' -- about what I'd expect.


 
Posted : May 25, 2017 7:41 pm
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I've run three today with no problem. I have however had problems with data availability from several CORS stations.


 
Posted : May 26, 2017 8:52 am
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Well, Loyal figured it out and it is important. But I am going to let him detail the fix as he figured it out.

Loyal...


 
Posted : May 26, 2017 9:40 am

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Okay, so here's what I figured out:

This is the RINEX that I get out of my HCRinex6 (or Covert to RINEX) converter (Observation types):

8 C1 L1 D1 S1 P2 L2 D2 S2 # / TYPES OF OBSERV

It has been my SOP for many years, to strip all of the "unnecessary" observations out of a RINEX File before submitting it to OPUS_S

3 C1 L1 L2 # / TYPES OF OBSERV

This has always worked FINE (up until this week), when these files STOPPED working through OPUS (including files that processed just fine LAST WEEK). So I went back to the Original RINEX, and stripped everything BUT C1L1L2P2 (which is what I do for the RARE occasions when I play with OPUS_RS).

4 C1 L1 L2 P2 # / TYPES OF OBSERV

Bingo...the file(s) process just fine. Apparently PAGES_LT has been modified to require the "extra" (P2) observation. OR something else has been changed in the OPUS_S routine that has the same net effect.

Mystery solved for my purposes.
Loyal


 
Posted : May 26, 2017 9:49 am
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Not quite solved Loyal. Perhaps this change was unintentional.

I have been informed that OPUS Static now, as in this afternoon, will accept files without P again.


 
Posted : May 26, 2017 3:24 pm
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I have heard that they are constantly doing tweaks to OPUS and PAGEs, and not really changing any version numbers, etc.

I do the same with my programs, I am always "tweaking" them, and I don't consider that a major change. But, sometimes a small change can have a large effect.

I could be wrong, but that is what I was told by someone.


 
Posted : May 26, 2017 3:30 pm
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Most likely someone swapped in the OPUS-RS filter for the OPUS-S submission chain without thinking of the consequences.

BTW, why strip out P1? Leaving it in makes it easier to split a file for OPUS-RS to confirm your solution.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : May 26, 2017 4:42 pm