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Glenn Borkenhagen
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A while back (longer than I really care to admit) I offered to help the widow of Mr. Charles R. Swart dispose of several survey-related items that Charles had accumulated through the decades. I am doing this simply as a favor to Mrs. Swart.

Charles Swart was the founding president of the Montana Association of Registered Land Surveyors and had land-surveying practices both in Bozeman, Montana and San Marcos, Texas. Kent McMillan mentioned his colleague and friend Charles in several posts to this forum; you can find those threads using the search function.

Charles' web site is still available at www.landsurveyor.info. Among the articles on that site is a particularly interesting history of the establishment of the initial point of the Principal Meridian of Montana.

The specific items being offered are:
Troughton & Simms transit theodlite (pre 1916) with a fixed-leg tripod like nothing I have ever seen before.

Gurley small transit (1913) with extension-leg tripod

Chesterman 100-foot engineer's link chain

Buff & Buff No. 2 transit (1909 or earlier)

Wild T2 theodolite (1961 - military surplus - graduated in mils - something all you Eighty-Two Charlies need!)

Rather than burn up a lot of Wendell's bandwidth on this forum, I have posted detailed descriptions and many large images on one of my download sites.

I used quite a bit of effort and research time in an attempt to make the descriptions complete, but if you have questions beyond what I provided please post to this thread or send me a message via this forum's message system.

To access the descriptions, images, and other related information, please point your web browser to
http://inlandwyo.com/inlandwyo/pub/Charles%20Swart%20Items/

There you will see a PDF and five subfolders. The PDF provides descriptions of the individual items as well as an index to the various images that are sorted into subfolders named for the specific items.

Any and all offers will be considered. I may list these items on eBay as well, but would prefer to first offer these to members of this forum.

GB

 
Posted : April 11, 2016 8:09 am
Jon Collins
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Recognize your name, can't place where I met you. Decade ago I worked for Stetson

 
Posted : April 11, 2016 6:40 pm
Iceman
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Glenn,

I am interested in the Wild T-2.

Please email me at : [email protected]

Thank you,
John

 
Posted : April 12, 2016 7:13 am
bfarmer
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Glenn,

Do you have these instruments here in town? I may need to swing by and check them out...

 
Posted : April 12, 2016 7:49 am
Glenn Borkenhagen
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Jon Collins, post: 366779, member: 11135 wrote: Recognize your name, can't place where I met you. Decade ago I worked for Stetson

Hi Jon -

My former microbidness, Inland GPS Inc., was honored to provide Trimble products to Stetson Engineering from when they bought their first GPS in 1999 until Inland GPS headed off into the sunset in 2010.

So I expect we met during one of my visits to Stetson's office, or maybe at a Wyoming Engineering Society convention?

GB

 
Posted : April 12, 2016 10:45 am

Glenn Borkenhagen
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Iceman, post: 366829, member: 579 wrote: Glenn,

I am interested in the Wild T-2.

Please email me at : [email protected]

Thank you,
John

Hi John -

Thanks for your interest, I sent an email a couple of minutes ago.

GB

 
Posted : April 12, 2016 10:50 am
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Bfarmer, post: 366838, member: 7960 wrote: Glenn,

Do you have these instruments here in town? I may need to swing by and check them out...

Yup, the instruments are in Cody but not at my house. Would be glad to set up an appointment to show them, give me a call.

GB

 
Posted : April 12, 2016 10:51 am
Glenn Borkenhagen
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We have a $300 offer for the Wild T2 theodolite. Please post here or send me a message via this forum if you would like to make your own offer.

To facilitate the process, let's use the following minimum offer increments:

$ 0 - 100 : $10
$ 100 - 500 : $25
$ 500 - 1,000 : $50
$ 1,000 - 2,000 : $100
$ 2,000 - 5,000 : $250
$ 5,000 - 10,000 : $500

So the next offer for this Wild T2 will need to be at least $325 but there is no upper limit if you would like to offer any amount higher than $325.

I edited the index document on the web site referenced in the first post to include approximate weight and dimensions for the packages so prospective buyers can get an idea of the shipping charges. Shipping will be from ZIP 82414 unless you would like to come to pick up the items here at the Athens of the Rockies - no charge for that and I will even buy lunch!

GB

 
Posted : April 12, 2016 5:34 pm
Jon Collins
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Glenn Borkenhagen, post: 366871, member: 961 wrote: Hi Jon -

My former microbidness, Inland GPS Inc., was honored to provide Trimble products to Stetson Engineering from when they bought their first GPS in 1999 until Inland GPS headed off into the sunset in 2010.

So I expect we met during one of my visits to Stetson's office, or maybe at a Wyoming Engineering Society convention?

GB

Ah yes. Inland GPS, now I remember.

 
Posted : April 13, 2016 8:32 pm
MJP-PLS
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is survey chain still available?

 
Posted : April 14, 2016 8:37 am

Glenn Borkenhagen
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MJP-PLS, post: 367205, member: 8990 wrote: is survey chain still available?

Yes, it is. Others have asked about it but so far no one has made an offer on it.

If you or someone else makes an offer on the chain (or other item) I will start a new thread for that item by itself so it will be easier to track as other offers come in (or don't).

I looked on eBay the other evening and similar Chesterman 100-foot link chains have recently sold in the $235 - $300 price range.

If you would like to make a public offer, go ahead and post back to this thread. If you want to offer privately, send me a message via this board and I will post the amount of the offer but not the bidder's identity.

Thanks for your interest!

GB

 
Posted : April 14, 2016 9:17 am
acd-surveyor
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Glenn,
Where are you at on the prices for the instruments?

Steve

 
Posted : April 14, 2016 10:08 am
Glenn Borkenhagen
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ACD Surveyor, post: 367225, member: 494 wrote: Glenn,
Where are you at on the prices for the instruments?

Steve

Hi Steve -

So far we have a $300 offer for the Wild T2, no offers on the others so far.

I will be away from the computer until next Tuesday or so, then will set up some things to make the various items easier to track.

GB

 
Posted : April 14, 2016 8:49 pm
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Glenn Borkenhagen, post: 366600, member: 961 wrote: A while back (longer than I really care to admit) I offered to help the widow of Mr. Charles R. Swart dispose of several survey-related items that Charles had accumulated through the decades. I am doing this simply as a favor to Mrs. Swart.

Charles Swart was the founding president of the Montana Association of Registered Land Surveyors and had land-surveying practices both in Bozeman, Montana and San Marcos, Texas. Kent McMillan mentioned his colleague and friend Charles in several posts to this forum; you can find those threads using the search function.

Charles' web site is still available at www.landsurveyor.info. Among the articles on that site is a particularly interesting history of the establishment of the initial point of the Principal Meridian of Montana.

The specific items being offered are:
Troughton & Simms transit theodlite (pre 1916) with a fixed-leg tripod like nothing I have ever seen before.

Gurley small transit (1913) with extension-leg tripod

Chesterman 100-foot engineer's link chain

Buff & Buff No. 2 transit (1909 or earlier)

Wild T2 theodolite (1961 - military surplus - graduated in mils - something all you Eighty-Two Charlies need!)

Rather than burn up a lot of Wendell's bandwidth on this forum, I have posted detailed descriptions and many large images on one of my download sites.

I used quite a bit of effort and research time in an attempt to make the descriptions complete, but if you have questions beyond what I provided please post to this thread or send me a message via this forum's message system.

To access the descriptions, images, and other related information, please point your web browser to
http://inlandwyo.com/inlandwyo/pub/Charles Swart Items/

There you will see a PDF and five subfolders. The PDF provides descriptions of the individual items as well as an index to the various images that are sorted into subfolders named for the specific items.

Any and all offers will be considered. I may list these items on eBay as well, but would prefer to first offer these to members of this forum.

GB

The 82 wifey of this 82C doesn't seen to think I need that T-2, but I got the last word in..... Two words, actually....

 
Posted : April 14, 2016 9:31 pm
sek-surveyor
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No bids on the chain yet? If not, it looks like one of the chains just sold on Ebay for $170 total.

I will start the bidding for the chain at $150.

 
Posted : April 19, 2016 11:23 am

Glenn Borkenhagen
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sek-surveyor, post: 368150, member: 6157 wrote: No bids on the chain yet? If not, it looks like one of the chains just sold on Ebay for $170 total.

I will start the bidding for the chain at $150.

Thanks for your offer, sek-surveyor!

I have started a new separate thread for this chain (including sek-surveyor's offer) as well as a separate thread for the Wild Heerbrugg T2 theodolite.

Please post future offers for those items in those threads.

I will start separate threads for the other three items soon.

GB

 
Posted : April 19, 2016 8:04 pm
acd-surveyor
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Glenn,

I'll give you $300 for the Gurley.

 
Posted : April 22, 2016 11:20 am
Glenn Borkenhagen
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ACD Surveyor, post: 368799, member: 494 wrote: Glenn,

I'll give you $300 for the Gurley.

Thanks for the starting offer, "ACD Surveyor"!

To be precise, the sale proceeds are not going to me - they will go to Mrs. Swart.

Since starting this thread I learned that the Gurley instrument is the No. 100 Reconnoissance Transit. Gurley used that older alternate spelling instead of "reconnaissance" as my spell checker thinks it should be spelled.

I will start a separate thread for the Gurley transit and tripod later today or tomorrow. The new thread will include a link to a PDF of a Gurley manual/catalog from 1912.

GB

 
Posted : April 22, 2016 12:40 pm
dms330
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Hi Glenn,

I will give her $250 for the Buff & Buff and an additional $50 to Wendell.

Thanks for doing such a great job of presenting these for her.

Dave.

Licensed Land Surveyor
Finger Lakes Region, Upstate New York

 
Posted : April 22, 2016 5:45 pm
briniker
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Since Nobody has expressed any interest- Ill Go $100 plus $25 to Wendell on the Troughton & Simms

 
Posted : April 25, 2016 11:43 am

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