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Hey All,

I just received my letter from the NH Board that Iƒ??ll be able to take the PS exam and the NH Legal Aspects Exam which is in April removed link

I wanted to ask if there was a consensus on how to pass the PS Exam, best study material and how to prep and use the reference removed link ?ÿI see the study buddy Prepared 2 Pass sells, Iƒ??m not sure if it is the best route or if there is other books ie, Browns boundary control, that would be better to buy and dive into ?ÿ

Also if anyone from NH has recently taken the NH portion of the exam, what to expect and study for removed link

Thanks

Bill


 
Posted : November 26, 2017 4:52 am
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Here are a couple of very good classes for the FS and PS exam coming in spring 2018.

http://lss-seminars.com/Spring_2018/Spring_2018_Home_Page.html


 
Posted : November 26, 2017 7:16 am
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Hi Bill,

The national portion was by far the easier of the two halves of the exam. NCEES should still be offering a "practice exam" book for sale. You should buy that and take the practice exam. Be aware PLSS stuff will be incorporated in a national exam!

The New Hampshire portion of the exam is obviously geared towards boundary issues that are commonplace in Colonial States. I found folks' who routinely worked "boundary projects" at work did much better than folks who rarely "touched" boundary jobs. That seems like a no brainer, but good surveyors who spent most of their time at work in the field or designing new alignments were sitting for their second or third times on the day that I took the exam. You could be an absolute guru with RTK, or state plane coordinates, or geodesy, or CAD. But boundary, Right of way, Junior/Senior rights, riparian rights, easement types, evidence analysis... these are the types of topics that a boundary surveyor will be judged on!

Dare I say there are no textbooks that will help you on the state portion. NHLSA may have some material that is much more relevant to NH boundary issues - but that exactly speaks to the reason why THERE IS A STATE PORTION to all survey licensing exams. The very nature of our boundary knowledge is regional by definition.

UNH may be offering the two day course "Putting it All together" again in April 2018. If the professor who was teaching it back in 2013 is still teaching that class - you are in good hands! Check the continuing education side of UNH to see if they have activated that class yet.

Good luck, and remember: solid boundary experience is what you need.

PS - to all the non New Hampshire surveyors: We use LLS (Licensed Land Surveyor) as credentials. Does any other jurisdiction use LLS?


 
Posted : November 28, 2017 9:50 pm
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I have most of the books from this PS Exam Bundle?ÿ removed link but, they are an editi9n or two behind what is Current removed link Is there a huge difference between an edition, especially when some of the most recent editions are older than the ƒ??updatedƒ? PS Exam?

I also have a NH Planning book that is one year behind, would I be ok with this edition opposed to buying the new one? Iƒ??m trying to spend my time and money in the best possible removed link

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Posted : November 29, 2017 6:37 am
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I found the Land Survey Review Manual by R.B. Buckner really helpful when I took the exam. You can only buy it here http://www.hp33ssurveyor.com/
The above link, hp33ssurveyor, you can also buy audio files of the guy reading excerpts from the Brown books and he also has an audio file of him just reading survey related definitions. I have a fairly long commute so I tried to get as much studying in as I could even when I was driving.
I also got the Ted Madson audio tapes to listen to when I drove to and from work, leegreen listed the web address above, which are great.
I still listen to them.
I found the PPI PS practice exam to be quite bad in my opinion, I would of course get the official NCEES practice exam.
Stay clear of the joke of an online PS review course that Tony Nettleman tries to sell people. That was a total waste of my money.


 
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You might be OK.?ÿ The best books for New Hampshire specific topics are available for purchase from the New Hampshire Land Surveyors Association.?ÿ?ÿ

Manuals on roads and easements will give many NH-specifics.


 
Posted : January 3, 2018 10:06 pm
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Bill

As Craig said, the UNH course is invaluable and will inform you on what you need to know to pass the NH portion. It is money well spent. Link to course is?ÿhere.


 
Posted : January 5, 2018 8:33 am
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So I got my results back today on the PS Exam and I passed. So now it is onto the NH Legal Aspects Exam in April. I have signed up for the "Putting It All Together" 2 day prep course that UNH runs. I bought some of the recommended reading books from the NHLSA.

I've tried googling for answers about the Legal Aspects Exam and haven't had any luck. I want to start studying for this next exam, I had some question on this exam specifically

Is it open book? Am I able to use the NH RSA book and the NH Land Planning book?

Do we have to hand draft deeds/write a deed description?

I believe it's a two hour exam, roughly how many questions are there?

Any other pointers would be great, Thanks.

?ÿ


 
Posted : January 24, 2018 1:35 pm
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The exam was closed book when I took it, believe that is still the case. If you take the course at UNH with Eric Mitchell he will give you all the info you need to know.?ÿ


 
Posted : January 24, 2018 3:15 pm
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Iƒ??m definitely taking the course with Mitchell. I was hoping to get some idea of what or how the test was so o could start reading and studying now. The UNH course is about 3 weeks prior to the exam, which should be enough time to study, I just wanna get it first swing.

Was the PS Exam more difficult than the NH Exam?


 
Posted : January 24, 2018 3:25 pm

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Sooo, the NH Legal Aspects Exam is April 14th. Unfortunately?ÿonly 3 total people signed up for the UNH class, Putting it all Togther. So the class was cancelled. I?ÿcontacted the state to try and get some more info on what to expect on the exam. I didnƒ??t get really any info.

Would anyone be able to shed some light on what i should expect to see on the NH Legal Aspects Exam??ÿ

Iƒ??m guessing there is multiple choice, essays, matching, deed related questions......looking for any insight as to what iƒ??m Going to see.

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Thanks


 
Posted : April 3, 2018 3:49 pm
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I can't speak for NH specifically, but based on Mass. & Maine's tests I would expect questions on highway law (NH has classes of highways), riparian boundaries, Great Ponds, Scots vs. English rod - and where you might find the Scots rod was used (Derry comes to mind), utility of the old pine rust maps, how many counties and / or how many registries of deeds in the state, know the Board of Registration regulations, ...


 
Posted : April 4, 2018 1:00 pm
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Thanks Pete,

i didnƒ??t really think of stuff like the number of registryƒ??s and counties. Made me think there might be matching questions of which County is where, some stuff that should be easy answers.

Thanks


 
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The exam is 5 hours closed book everything from multiple choice, fill in the bank and real world examples to solve. I made a post 2 years ago on what i was going to study for a reference. Good luck!


 
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