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MightyMoe
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@rover83 

Same with a subdivisional lot?

 
Posted : August 22, 2023 9:33 am
Norman_Oklahoma
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Mandatory recording.

I'm licensed in 2 recording states, Oregon & Washington. In Clark County, WA you email a pdf of your survey to the County Surveyor. He reviews and returns it by close of business the same day. Naturally, such a review is not overly detailed. Filing fee  is a bit under $300.

In Oregon, you submit a paper copy of your survey, full size by US Mail, and they will review it within 6 weeks. They have staff that does nothing but review surveys. They go over it with microscopes, redline your paper, and return it by US Mail. Some things are required fixes and some are just suggestions, but you can't really tell which is which. You then have a month to respond. A few cycles of this is common. In 6 months or so, you will get your survey filed. Filing fee $455.

You will not find any math errors on an Oregon Survey. You might on a Washington one.  But I prefer the Washington process.

 
Posted : August 22, 2023 9:36 am
MightyMoe
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Thanks for the info Norman

 
Posted : August 22, 2023 10:24 am
dmyhill
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I'm licensed in 2 recording states, Oregon & Washington. In Clark County, WA you email a pdf of your survey to the County Surveyor. He reviews and returns it by close of business the same day. Naturally, such a review is not overly detailed. Filing fee  is a bit under $300.

You send it to the County Surveyor? Why not just send it to the Auditor (no review is contemplated in the RCW other than for form)? Does the County Surveyor charge for review?

If it is done as a courtesy, who wouldn't appreciate another set of eyes, but the biggest counties in WA have no review by a surveyor on any survey documents. This might include plats. The plats will get checked against the closure report and for completeness, but review isn't typically done by a surveyor, as far as I know, and if the Plat is in a city, the county has zero review, other than for form (no blue ink!!!).

 

 
Posted : August 22, 2023 7:37 pm
Norman_Oklahoma
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You send it to the County Surveyor? Why not just send it to the Auditor

It's the process in Clark County. I'm not sure if I could force things and have no desire to find out. No, there is no additional fee.

Many years ago I worked in Whatcom County. One of my assigned tasks was delivering completed surveys to the auditor's counter. So I'm familiar with the drill.

 
Posted : August 22, 2023 10:25 pm

GaryG
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A few cycles of this is common.

Always gotta love the perpetual review process. 

 
Posted : August 23, 2023 4:51 am
jph
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@rover83 

Not required in all states.  I've drawn up many boundary plans, ready to be recorded, that never saw the light of day again. 

I believe that some states don't even require recording of plans showing single lot divisions

 
Posted : August 23, 2023 6:15 am
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I am probably one of the few here who wished this disclaimer could be true. 

While boundary lines for the most part, don't move after a real estate transaction, I feel that the use of a plan/plat/document that was prepared by a surveyor for a specific client, shouldn't be able to be used from owner to owner, in perpetuity.  And if used by someone other than the original owner/client, the surveyor shouldn't be held liable. 

It's currently like an insurance policy with a single premium, paid by the original client.

I'm sure it'll never change, but it's my dream

 
Posted : August 23, 2023 6:50 am
BStrand
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@norman-oklahoma

If all they do is glance at the survey for $300-500 then I'll take a pass on that 'service'.  If they go around and maintain all of the public land corners in their county as well then maybe it's a different story.  I like Idaho's way actually, no review and $5 to record a (non-plat) survey.  Let the professionals be responsible for their work.

 
Posted : August 23, 2023 7:03 am
RADAR
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@norman-oklahoma 

Ken Paul is the Clark County Surveyor; he was deputized as an Auditor, so he he can record survey related documents. His office is where you go, to record surveys and research survey records. The Auditor's office has deeds and all the other recorded documents. I've never recorded a survey in Clark County, this is what I heard. I know Ken, personally.

I believe this is the only county in Washington that does this. I applaud them.

The Recording fee for surveys, in Washington State, recently went up; it's $323.50 plus $5.00 for each additional page. But I see, on the Clark County Website, the recording fee is $292.50.

This is, more or less, how they did it in Nebraska. The County Surveyor was an elected position and was paid a salary. Research was easy and fun; you talked to someone that knew what you were talking about.

I was shocked, when I moved to Washington. No wonder it takes so long to do a simple, residential, boundary survey, in a platted subdivision.

 


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Posted : August 23, 2023 10:52 am

dmyhill
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I'm not sure if I could force things and have no desire to find out.

Yeah, many such things occur with me as well. But state law is clear about the auditor and recording documents. 

I wouldn't mind having additional review for free, so I probably wouldn't say a thing.

There is a guy that occasionally does surveys around here, and he does a great job, but EVERYSINGLE lot corner has RP's listed, which is completely abnormal around here. I asked him about it, and he said that his county requires it.

One county around here insists that the title block be on the bottom, which is not their right to insist on. I follow the rules, however, because I like a good working relationship. One time I did push back because it was done the other way and I simply needed it recorded right then, but we now follow their wishes. If it doesn't cost anything, why not be agreeable?

 
Posted : August 24, 2023 2:04 pm
dmyhill
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I believe this is the only county in Washington that does this. I applaud them.

I would love to have an office of County Surveyor in each county responsible for survey records...That would be a great state law.

 
Posted : August 24, 2023 2:07 pm
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