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Yup, I got blindsided by a Survey Broker

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foggyidea
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Last year I did an ALTA survey for a client in a neighboring town. A small nursing home that I know the owner of, and have done other survey work for him at his house. His daughter and my daughter are good friends being classmates for a few years now.

So now he is refinancing the balance of the Nursing home, the assisted living site across the street.

I know that spledeus will recall this as he accused me of low balling and I accused him of gouging! (In out local friendly way, that is.) I was right he was gouging though! 🙂

So this time I work up a price, $6,600. It's a smaller site and less detail to worry about. I felt this was a fair price.

Well before I could get my proposal to him, like 12 hours after our first contact and as I was drawing up our proposal, I received an email from him to hold up. He says, "I am working with a different loaner on this re-fi and they have a standard survey charge of $3,600 for this project and they will take care of everything for the $3,600.

I wrote back that this type of survey brokering is a problem in our profession, and how surveying is local and not cookie cutter, but that I do understand from his point of view, $3000 is $3000. I probably could have gotten the job for $3,600, but I didn't want it "bad enough" to participate in this race to the bottom.

He wrote back, said he appreciated my candor.

And so it goes.

Meanwhile, this morning I was here at daybreak this morning. About a half mile off shore from Crowes Pasture, Dennis MA.

That's me to the left and my buddy Paul driving.

Just so you know, I'm not complaining, I do understand competition. There are just areas I prefer not to compete in.


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 7:33 am
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The value of the ALTA for the nursing home was a bit more than $6,600, but that's how it goes. I generally won't touch an ALTA for so little.


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 8:36 am
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You're right, the nursing home was a bit more than $6,600, just not quite into the 5 digits 😉


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 8:54 am
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I wonder what his actual, final price will be? Curious to know if he runs into any fee creepage.


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 9:03 am
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I think all ALTAs should be in the 5 digits.


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 9:05 am

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Don-

Is this a pic of you being involved in 'linear hydrology' ?

YOS

TNAI


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 9:06 am
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> Don-
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> Is this a pic of you being involved in 'linear hydrology' ?
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> YOS
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> TNAI

Appears to be more of a survey of aquatic population. Hope you are properly licensed for such endeavors.


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 9:20 am
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yup, I am properly licensed up with that new fangled $10 salt water license...... this was our 4AM to 7AM survey recon. Actually I have to do a post dredge survey of the harbor we launched from. That will be Friday morning at the low tide 🙂


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 9:23 am
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I've decided there are two ways to approach this:

1. Make more money so you can spend more time fishing.

2. Make less money because you spend so much time fishing.

I'm starting to lean toward option 2!


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 9:43 am
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Decisions .... decisions..... hmmmmm B-) ?????


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 10:42 am

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I would rather work half the time for twice the pay.


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 10:45 am
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I'm with John. work Smarter, make more and then I can be like spledeus and only work half days, the sun up to sun down half...

But really, charge more and you can do a much better job!


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 10:54 am
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> I've decided there are two ways to approach this:
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> 1. Make more money so you can spend more time fishing.
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> 2. Make less money because you spend so much time fishing.
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> I'm starting to lean toward option 2!

You outta try catching instead of fishing.


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 1:08 pm
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What???!!!! That’s it???!!! No name calling? No slandering? No ethical infractions?

Cripes you guy’s must be professionals or something!

Have a great week! B-)


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 1:39 pm
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This morning I drove past a site I had surveyed in 1999, and noticed a survey crew. I asked them who they worked for (not from Tucson), and if they had a copy of the previous survey (very difficult area). No, did not. I got the impression they didn't care either way because they didn't ask how to get a copy.

Last I saw they were taking a shot on a property corner, single rover shot, no bipod or brace, almost under a tall advertising sign.

I'll make a note and check back in a few months on that mandatory record of survey.


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 2:01 pm

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I agree.


 
Posted : June 26, 2013 5:51 pm