My Dad has a hardwood flooring manufacturing plant, and accumulates a huge amount of scrap that would be great for stakes. Most of the scrap is hardwoods, mainly a lot of Red and White Oak, and Hickory, but also does some Pine and Poplar.
I was just hoping for some feedback of what type and price point you guys are currently paying, and if there would be any interest if he started making them.
I used to work in Chicago period we used wooden Stakes for construction staking. We use the oak ones when the ground was real hard. Most of the time we would use pine. Maybe makeup 100 bundles. And call all the local surveyors that don't need to pay shipping. See how it goes. It's a construction Staker that you're looking for mostly. Although surveyors, do use them.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 430798, member: 291 wrote: It's a construction Staker that you're looking for mostly. Although surveyors, do use them.
Really?!
"Real" surveyors set metal rods, and caps. (often with wood stk to help client find them)
"Fake" surveyors only set wood stks.
This use of non permanent markers is a means of limiting lliability.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 430830, member: 291 wrote: "Real" surveyors set metal rods, and caps. (often with wood stk to help client find them)
"Fake" surveyors only set wood stks.
This use of non permanent markers is a means of limiting lliability.
What the hell are you talking about? He's not talking about setting corners or control points. He's talking about traverse points, guard stakes and marking property lines as well as construction staking. "Real Surveyors"? I hope you don't fall off of that high horse and skin your Javad. You need to relax man. You are way too critical of your colleagues. Try listening/reading instead of posting for one day. You might enjoy it.
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 430830, member: 291 wrote: "Real" surveyors set metal rods, and caps. (often with wood stk to help client find them)
"Fake" surveyors only set wood stks.
This use of non permanent markers is a means of limiting lliability.
I set capped iron rods for most of my boundary points and control points (if not I'm setting Bernsten Plugs epoxied into concrete), but I probably use 50 wooden stakes for every iron rod. Construction staking.
Jones, post: 430777, member: 10458 wrote: My Dad has a hardwood flooring manufacturing plant, and accumulates a huge amount of scrap that would be great for stakes. Most of the scrap is hardwoods, mainly a lot of Red and White Oak, and Hickory, but also does some Pine and Poplar.
If they are big enough for stakes you could probably package up the scrap and sell it to local woodworkers by the pound. The stakes I use here on the west coast are universally fir/hemlock.
Sorry guys I just have somebody around here doing that to me
He was doing 1500 surveys a year setting wood Stakes only. It just left a terrible mess in my neighborhood period and I'm still dealing with it.
Jones, post: 430777, member: 10458 wrote: My Dad has a hardwood flooring manufacturing plant, and accumulates a huge amount of scrap that would be great for stakes. Most of the scrap is hardwoods, mainly a lot of Red and White Oak, and Hickory, but also does some Pine and Poplar.
I was just hoping for some feedback of what type and price point you guys are currently paying, and if there would be any interest if he started making them.
In my area, 25 2x2x8 hubs go for about 18 bucks. 48in lath goes for 32 bucks for a bundle of 50. Spendy, if you jig up a table saw and radial saw just right, you can make good money. Previous town I worked in had a guy doing this in a barn on his ranch.
Mark Mayer, post: 430833, member: 424 wrote:
If they are big enough for stakes you could probably package up the scrap and sell it to local woodworkers by the pound. The stakes I use here on the west coast are universally fir/hemlock.[/QUOTE
Most of his waste is strips that are about 2 in wide and 10' to 12' long, so they are perfect for stakes. He is already cutting some for tomato stakes for local nurseries, it's just he has so much that he is basically begging people to come and take them away. I thought with just a little more work, he could actually make some money with them.
Jones, post: 430777, member: 10458 wrote: My Dad has a hardwood flooring manufacturing plant, and accumulates a huge amount of scrap that would be great for stakes. Most of the scrap is hardwoods, mainly a lot of Red and White Oak, and Hickory, but also does some Pine and Poplar.
I was just hoping for some feedback of what type and price point you guys are currently paying, and if there would be any interest if he started making them.
Cody I would buy them from you and give it a try. The guy I have been using for wood stakes is no longer doing it. His dad had a sawmill. Send some pics of them. I usually buy almost a truckload at a time. Usually the truck load will last me all year unless I take on some construction staking jobs.
Adam, post: 430844, member: 8900 wrote: Cody I would buy them from you and give it a try. The guy I have been using for wood stakes is no longer doing it. His dad had a sawmill. Send some pics of them. I usually buy almost a truckload at a time. Usually the truck load will last me all year unless I take on some construction staking jobs.
He hasn't made any for that I would classify for surveying yet, his tomato stakes are five and half foot and are left a full inch to inch and a quarter. I'll have him make a few bundles next week and text you a couple of pictures. He is really just in the beginning phases of deciding if it would work. I told him I would try to get some feedback if those harder species would be desirable or not.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 430830, member: 291 wrote: "Real" surveyors set metal rods, and caps. (often with wood stk to help client find them)
"Fake" surveyors only set wood stks.
This use of non permanent markers is a means of limiting lliability.
I use quite a bit of stakes for traverse points when I know we will be returning to the site and for construction layout but never for property corners where they are always either capped iron pins or concrete monuments with rebar in them to make them detectable. In NJ, that is the State statute requires that we set permanent corners on every survey we do, but if the client wants to reduce costs they can sign a written waiver to not have their corners set and sadly, most do sign the waiver. I will never set wooden stakes on corners, PCs or PTs.
When they sign that waiver, a decent percentage of the time they want to know where their corners are a few years down the line to build a fence or something else and become outraged when I charge them to remobilize to set the corners with capped pins or monuments. NJ is funny, obligate us to offer the waiver or set the corners but not record a survey.
Jones, post: 430777, member: 10458 wrote: My Dad has a hardwood flooring manufacturing plant, and accumulates a huge amount of scrap that would be great for stakes. Most of the scrap is hardwoods, mainly a lot of Red and White Oak, and Hickory, but also does some Pine and Poplar.
I was just hoping for some feedback of what type and price point you guys are currently paying, and if there would be any interest if he started making them.
I have 3 field crews doing a combination of title surveys, topos and construction layout. I would estimate that I buy 6 to 8 bundles of both stakes and lath per month. For 12" stakes I pay $25/bundle of 50 stakes. I use 36" lath to mark each stake and I believe they are around $35/bundle of 50. I also pay a $25 delivery charge which is reasonable.
I never use pine, it tends to be too soft in some conditions and does not last long. The wood I get is oak and the lath are planed smooth so they can be easilt written on.
I'm sure there is a market for it with Surveyors and construction companies.
BushAxe, post: 430831, member: 11897 wrote: You need to relax man.
You too.
Around here 6" 1x2 are about $16 for 100. 2' lath are $17, 4 footers are $30. Haven't really looked for "Oakies" in many years. Those SOB's used to really explode when there was the slightest flaw in the wood, once you got 'em started in hard ground, didn't they? Anybody?
Come on Nate, everybody knows that you only need 6" Guinees with a punch mark for property corners, recorded or not. That's called Servaying, in these parts.
lol
JA, PLS, SoCal
Nate The Surveyor, post: 430838, member: 291 wrote: He was doing 1500 surveys a year setting wood Stakes only. It just left a terrible mess in my neighborhood period and I'm still dealing with it.
Dang Nate,
Ol' Ed Banks and Floyd Weaver used wood monuments on thousands of surveys...some of those pine knots have been in place for 80 years! I consider those old Dierks Lumber and Coal Company 'real' Surveyors!
DDSM
Jerry Attrick, post: 430925, member: 1585 wrote: Around here 6" 1x2 are about $16 for 100. 2' lath are $17, 4 footers are $30. Haven't really looked for "Oakies" in many years. Those SOB's used to really explode when there was the slightest flaw in the wood, once you got 'em started in hard ground, didn't they? Anybody?
Come on Nate, everybody knows that you only need 6" Guinees with a punch mark for property corners, recorded or not. That's called Servaying, in these parts.
lol
JA, PLS, SoCal
That's pretty spot on with what I have been paying.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 430837, member: 291 wrote: Sorry guys I just have somebody around here doing that to me
FedEx a bundle of nicely cut rebar to him. Maybe he will get the idea. I put metal in the ground and really only use stakes as a visible in open areas. In the woods it's flagging and hack marks. Mostly use them for construction staking.
There are many creek bottoms in the area where pine knots are most desired monuments as they do not deteriorate and wash downstream or sink into the unknown depths of the earth.
