DING! DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! Man, I'd have never figured that one out. Must be made for hard rock mining, possibly coal mines. Read the description they give and still don't know much from it.
[INDENT]"SupAnchor Shell Expansion Anchor Bolts (Double Ended Bolts) are generally used with expansion shells and post grouted with cementitious grouts. The Shell Expansion Anchor Bolts (Double Ended Bolts) utilises, and is compatible with SupAnchor expansion shell which provide - An up the hole point anchor. - ... "
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Sure makes a nice monument.
Thanks, [USER=8754]@willik[/USER].
That's one crazy monument. Who is just looking around the shed and says, "Yep, this will do." That's a very specialized device to just randomly have laying around.
Definitely someone in the mining or construction industry.
JBStahl, post: 356401, member: 427 wrote: Working on a project where I recovered this monument. Looks like some type of shaft with keyed slots near the threaded end and some type of metal cover that fits into the keys on the shaft. (the cover is pulled off center to set the rod tip on the end of the threads. Not sure what to call it.
If it is in Utah there is about a 99% chance its an UNCALLED for monument! I mean why waste the paper on a description or even a mention that they surveyed it or measured anything. If it cost much money they probably didn't do it, still don't if they can avoid it.
If it marks the boundary it's the RELIED UPON monument.
Doesn't look long enough to qualify as substantial unless there is something attached to it.
You better attach a blinking neon sign to it "ESTABLISHED MONUMENT - DO NOT DISTURB".
joabmc, post: 356506, member: 10395 wrote: That's one crazy monument. Who is just looking around the shed and says, "Yep, this will do." That's a very specialized device to just randomly have laying around.
Definitely someone in the mining or construction industry.
From an old surveying seminar I went to, I remember an older surveyor talking about his first gig as a new rodman. He was riding along with the surveyor and they passed a wrecked vehicle off the side of the road, the surveyor slammed on the breaks and went down and dismantled the axle and brought it up. He told our seminar instructor "Son, that's going to be a section corner one day".
I think back in the days of WWII, metal was a big commodity and most surveyors learned to scrounge for their corner material. They would find scrap metal wherever they could find it and stockpile it for future survey jobs. (that's the impression I got on the matter anyway).
Tom Adams, post: 356573, member: 7285 wrote: From an old surveying seminar I went to, I remember an older surveyor talking about his first gig as a new rodman. He was riding along with the surveyor and they passed a wrecked vehicle off the side of the road, the surveyor slammed on the breaks and went down and dismantled the axle and brought it up. He told our seminar instructor "Son, that's going to be a section corner one day".
I think back in the days of WWII, metal was a big commodity and most surveyors learned to scrounge for their corner material. They would find scrap metal wherever they could find it and stockpile it for future survey jobs. (that's the impression I got on the matter anyway).
Yep. We find a lot of good ones in our area. The term "stake" as a call was used pretty loosely. Planted axles are pretty common when looking for a so called "stake".
I'm mildly curious JB, since the monument apparently wasn't called for or adequately described as
JBStahl, post: 356463, member: 427 wrote: " SET SupAnchor Shell Expansion Anchor Bolts (Double Ended Bolts) are generally used with expansion shells and post grouted with cementitious grouts. The Shell Expansion Anchor Bolts (Double Ended Bolts) utilises, and is compatible with SupAnchor expansion shell which provide - An up the hole point anchor. - ... "
does that mean you'll be planting a shiny new aluminum cap .3' distant? :whistle:
I know some surveyors who could not resist. :woot:
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Williwaw, post: 356579, member: 7066 wrote: I'm mildly curious JB, since the monument apparently wasn't called for or adequately described as
does that mean you'll be planting a shiny new aluminum cap .3' distant? :whistle:
I know some surveyors who could not resist. :woot:
I resisted the urge to set another shiny cap 0.3' north. :whistle: Also resisted the urge to label it as an "Up The Hole Point Anchor" too. :whistle::whistle::whistle: I did finally just label it as a "Recovered Shell Expansion Anchor." I'm sure Kent would NOT approve. :-$
John
joabmc, post: 356576, member: 10395 wrote: Yep. We find a lot of good ones in our area. The term "stake" as a call was used pretty loosely. Planted axles are pretty common when looking for a so called "stake".
Yeah, this is how I understood it as well. The drive for steel for WWII left the local supply nearly cost prohibitive. A lot of subdivision maps around that will have redwood stakes as the survey monuments. Or they will set axles or rebar at block corners or other major points and wood stakes at lot corners and other "minor points" in the survey. I've even seen a bottle called out on a map as a monument. I guess it wouldn't deteriorate like wood or even steel, but it sure seems like it would be very fragile when digging it up.
JBStahl, post: 356463, member: 427 wrote: DING! DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! Man, I'd have never figured that one out. Must be made for hard rock mining, possibly coal mines. Read the description they give and still don't know much from it.
[INDENT]"SupAnchor Shell Expansion Anchor Bolts (Double Ended Bolts) are generally used with expansion shells and post grouted with cementitious grouts. The Shell Expansion Anchor Bolts (Double Ended Bolts) utilises, and is compatible with SupAnchor expansion shell which provide - An up the hole point anchor. - ... "
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Sure makes a nice monument.Thanks, [USER=8754]@willik[/USER].
Common parlance in southern Illinois would be Roof Bolt. Typically the end you see would be buried though.