Kent McMillan, post: 361187, member: 3 wrote: I use the 2-inch Aluminum Cap for 5/8-inch rebar with plastic insert that Surv-Kap sells and have for more than twenty years. I order them with standard stamping and add a punch mark for the station mark, the pt. no., and any remark to the cap when setting it. Excellent durability for rural work. The cap in the photo below is in a suburban residential setting.
Kent - we've tried these but find that the caps pop off due to freeze/thaw action on about 2 years. You guys probably don't have that problem down there do you?
I sure wish I could get some magnesium rod and caps for notification when an ambitious lawn mower strikes them...
The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.
I use Berntsen plastic caps or generic 2 1/2 inch aluminum caps. In extreme cases I'll use a FENO with a bronze tablet.
We routinely find plastic caps from the early 80s. No good on ditch banks or in the road, but they will last if set recessed.
aluminum caps below grade in acidic soil conditions corrode, at least the old ones I find that were set years ago. dig one up and it looks like a corroded battery on the end of a pin or sometimes its just some funky greenish looking soil and the top of the pin. my company uses plastic, I like it.
Somewhere in Texas there is surely a surveyor who sets caps that read: AAA SURVEYING ( KENT MCMILLAN IS A BLANKETYBLANK) INCORPORATED, LIC. NO. 123456
That way when Kent finds one and describes it in his standard fashion he must include whatever BLANKETYBLANK really says in his notes.
;-);-);-) Bad boys say bad things. :-O:-O:-O
My next batch of caps will say "property corner" on them. Not that they will end our silly pin gardens, but if I am the first one to set a monument, I am, in fact, setting a "property corner" as contemplated by law. When some guy with a better touchscreen comes along - currently in high school so give him a few years to get a license - he will set the second monument but will not likely say "property corner" on it. Thus, as in all pin gardens, we have one "property corner", and one really precise, superior piece of metal and cap with a surveyor's number on it.
Jim in AZ, post: 361201, member: 249 wrote: Kent - we've tried these but find that the caps pop off due to freeze/thaw action on about 2 years. You guys probably don't have that problem down there do you?
What's "freeze/thaw"? :>
Holy Cow, post: 361226, member: 50 wrote: Somewhere in Texas there is surely a surveyor who sets caps that read: AAA SURVEYING ( KENT MCMILLAN IS A BLANKETYBLANK) INCORPORATED, LIC. NO. 123456". That way when Kent finds one and describes it in his standard fashion he must include whatever BLANKETYBLANK really says in his notes.
Yes, it would be along these lines :
"Found old 1/2-inch Iron Pipe (8 inches down) taken for original Northeast corner of 102.36 acres set by O. Leonard in 1934 as described Vol.___ Pg.___ TCDR and from which a new 1/2-inch Iron Rod with a Yellow Plastic Cap imprinted 'AA SURV INC, #123456' bears N16-34-20W, 16.48 ft., same being evidently several meetings short of a program."
Here is a good squirrel proof aluminum cap................:-D
Dan B. Robison, post: 361198, member: 34 wrote: Let's hope it is not the common corner of Lots 1056 and 1055 of Block 1056 of Phase 1056 AND Lots 6501 and 5501 of Block 6501 of Phase BR549....
Y'all gonna need a bigger cap!!
How about pre-stamping 'FOR LOT # SEE PLAT'
DDSM:beer::beer:
Ok, I'll bite:
Lot numbers go on the cap, not the deed
Jim in AZ, post: 361197, member: 249 wrote: So how do your rules specify the stamping on a cap that is not at a "Lot corner", such as when half a Lot or the east 5' of a Lot is transferred?
These rules are for new subdivisions, you would have to replat to get 5' of Lot 5 in a new subdivision so therefore it will be a new lot.
Of course there are those situations in older subdivisions, you aren't required to stencil them with anything more than your PLS#, there are many ways to handle that if you want to stamp the cap with some identification, one old timer used to always stencil the names of the owners on the cap.
or you could just do this:
In New Zealand most boundaries are marked with a 
'">wooden peg
We sometimes use 
'">disks or 
'">spikes
Generally we will carve the lot numbers in the side of the peg - anything other than a peg must show "Boundary Mark" on it
We don't use caps at all
jim.cox, post: 361252, member: 93 wrote: In New Zealand most boundaries are marked with a
We sometimes use
Generally we will carve the lot numbers in the side of the peg - anything other than a peg must show "Boundary Mark" on it
We don't use caps at all
Yes, but aren't the corners defined by connections to identifiable permanent marks with the pegs being merely a realization of the coordinates of the boundary corners rather than conclusively defining them?
I really like the plastic caps,I work in West TN and off the top of my head I've found perfect caps set as far back as 92.
Kent McMillan, post: 361257, member: 3 wrote: Yes, but aren't the corners defined by connections to identifiable permanent marks with the pegs being merely a realization of the coordinates of the boundary corners rather than conclusively defining them?
No - The marker IS the boundary.
Unless it can conclusively be proven to be disturbed.
Our permanent survey marks witness the location - they dont define it
Even Landonline, our government computerised survey system, is vector based and makes very little use of coordinates.
Our land is far too dynamic for coordinates to be much use - they rank very low in the hierarchy of evidence
Plastic caps on rebar set a few tenths below grade.
Most are disturbed soon after setting by new landowner placing goatstakes, fence corners and driving tpost touching monuments.
For priority monuments like headright and block corners I will set a rebar looped in concrete with a stamped aluminum or brass disk.
MightyMoe, post: 361241, member: 700 wrote: Lot numbers go on the cap, not the deed
Moe,
I mistakenly thought stamping would resemble Section Township Range (Lot Block Phase).
Carry on.
DDSM:beer:
Yellow plastic cap with LB (licensed Survey business) on 1/2" rebar set 2" under surface. Currently set about 100-125 per month.
Dan B. Robison, post: 361309, member: 34 wrote: Moe,
I mistakenly thought stamping would resemble Section Township Range (Lot Block Phase).
Carry on.
DDSM:beer:
I probably would need bigger caps for thatB-)
I was really, really, really against it at first,,,,,,,,,,,
Now I highly recommend it, can't know how much it's saved me from going out and finding corners, but it sure helps bring stability to the neighborhoods.
Just have to be very careful, it's easy to stamp it wrong,,,,,:-(
jim.cox, post: 361263, member: 93 wrote: No - The marker IS the boundary.
Unless it can conclusively be proven to be disturbed.
Our permanent survey marks witness the location - they dont define it
This is a bit surprising to me since I had thought that New Zealand surveying was relatively carefully measured with full documentation of the work, including lines actually traversed, etc. At the face of it, a wooden peg wouldn't seem to be very permanent. Is highly rot-resistant wood normally used and what would an average life span be expected to be?