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the end of the road (LCDWB)?


 
Posted : December 7, 2012 8:37 pm
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> the end of the road (LCDWB)?
Maybe 794.94. Maybe 794.76. Maybe something else. The engineer has to resolve that.


 
Posted : December 7, 2012 10:24 pm
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I agree with your first guess. Not a good way to label profiles, leaves room for errors. 🙁


 
Posted : December 7, 2012 10:31 pm
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what about 794.71?


 
Posted : December 8, 2012 8:32 am
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Its kind of hard to read at that image resolution, but that is what it looks like to me as well.

The Bow Tie Surveyor


 
Posted : December 8, 2012 9:27 am

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794.94 at centerline and that's what should be labeled on the profile.

794.71 in correct for 12' lt of cl per the image if normal crown of 2%.


 
Posted : December 8, 2012 10:21 am
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Aww, but then I looked at the math.

PI sta looks to be 65+95.00, 791.23
Slope = 0.506%
End of the Road = 73+28.94 with what looks like the note 12' Lt (left)

7328.94-6595.00 = 733.94 * 0.00506 = 3.714 + 791.23 = 794.94
But if this is 12' left of the centerline, is there a drop of 0.03' to make the 794.91 that we read? That would be a 0.25% pitch which seems too flat for my tastes, though I've never worked on a road designed for 80 mph. If the Highway specs and the engineer state it's good, then go for it.


 
Posted : December 8, 2012 10:41 am
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:good:


 
Posted : December 8, 2012 3:38 pm
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oh yeah, 794.71, good show up there.


 
Posted : December 8, 2012 9:09 pm
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Profile Elevations (Existing and Proposed) should be labeled perpendicular to the 750 line at each Station and at all breaks (VPC, VPI, and VPT, and at End of Project.)

But I agree it's either 794.94 (by straight stationing calculations) or 794.71 (by note implying the difference due to the 12' Lt label).

It's still a very poor way to illustrate a profile and grades.

Are there cross sections? What do they show?


 
Posted : December 9, 2012 2:35 pm

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The 794.71 is the elevation 12' to the left (2% cross-slope).


 
Posted : December 9, 2012 3:43 pm