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over the weekend, to see what I could see, maybe find some fossils, but found some surveyors beat me to it and left this behind.




Didn't find any fossils, but a heck of a nice caribou shed.
Seems everywhere I go, some darn surveyor has already tread.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : August 7, 2017 9:46 am
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Monument was probably set by Daryl Moistner. 😎


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 9:48 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 440471, member: 379 wrote: Monument was probably set by Daryl Moistner. 😎

Unless he has a time machine, I doubt he was setting monuments in 1944.

1 National Geodetic Survey, Retrieval Date = AUGUST 7, 2017
UV4603 ***********************************************************************
UV4603 DESIGNATION - HORN
UV4603 PID - UV4603
UV4603 STATE/COUNTY- AK/VALDEZ-CORDOVA CENSUS
UV4603 COUNTRY - US
UV4603 USGS QUAD - GULKANA A-6
UV4603
UV4603 *CURRENT SURVEY CONTROL
UV4603 ______________________________________________________________________
UV4603* NAD 83(1986) POSITION- 62 00 57.31374(N) 146 47 12.88924(W) ADJUSTED
UV4603 ______________________________________________________________________
UV4603 GEOID HEIGHT - 16.239 (meters) GEOID12B
UV4603 LAPLACE CORR - -13.24 (seconds) DEFLEC12B
UV4603 HORZ ORDER - FIRST
UV4603
UV4603.The horizontal coordinates were established by classical geodetic methods
UV4603.and adjusted by the National Geodetic Survey in July 1986.
UV4603.
UV4603.Significant digits in the geoid height do not necessarily reflect accuracy.
UV4603.GEOID12B height accuracy estimate available https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/GEOID_STUFF/geoid12B_prompt1.prl&apos ;">here.
UV4603
UV4603.The Laplace correction was computed from DEFLEC12B derived deflections.
UV4603
UV4603. The following values were computed from the NAD 83(1986) position.
UV4603
UV4603; North East Units Scale Factor Converg.
UV4603;SPC AK 3 - 892,949.773 458,793.467 MT 0.99992079 -0 41 41.7
UV4603;UTM 06 - 6,875,972.025 511,155.045 MT 0.99960152 +0 11 17.4
UV4603
UV4603: Primary Azimuth Mark Grid Az
UV4603:SPC AK 3 - FIRE 225 42 46.4
UV4603:UTM 06 - FIRE 224 49 47.3
UV4603
UV4603_U.S. NATIONAL GRID SPATIAL ADDRESS: 6VWP1115575972(NAD 83)
UV4603
UV4603|---------------------------------------------------------------------|
UV4603| PID Reference Object Distance Geod. Az |
UV4603| dddmmss.s |
UV4603| CV1065 HORN RM 2 15.191 METERS 02423 |
UV4603| CV1064 HORN RM 1 13.731 METERS 12506 |
UV4603| TT1724 FIRE APPROX. 5.4 KM 2250104.7 |
UV4603|---------------------------------------------------------------------|
UV4603
UV4603 SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL
UV4603
UV4603 NAD 27 - 62 00 59.09380(N) 146 47 04.95085(W) AD( ) 1
UV4603 NGVD 29 (07/19/86) 1168.1 (m) 3832. (f) VERT ANG
UV4603
UV4603.Superseded values are not recommended for survey control.
UV4603
UV4603.NGS no longer adjusts projects to the NAD 27 or NGVD 29 datums.
UV4603.See file https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/DATASHEET/dsdata.pdf&apos ;">dsdata.pdf to determine how the superseded data were derived.
UV4603
UV4603_MARKER: DS = TRIANGULATION STATION DISK
UV4603_SETTING: 17 = SET INTO TOP OF METAL PIPE DRIVEN INTO GROUND
UV4603_STABILITY: D = MARK OF QUESTIONABLE OR UNKNOWN STABILITY
UV4603
UV4603 HISTORY - Date Condition Report By
UV4603 HISTORY - 1944 MONUMENTED CGS
UV4603 HISTORY - 1948 GOOD USGS
UV4603 HISTORY - 1949 GOOD USGS
UV4603 HISTORY - 1964 GOOD CGS
UV4603
UV4603 STATION DESCRIPTION
UV4603
UV4603'DESCRIBED BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1944 (JCS)
UV4603'STATION IS LOCATED ABOUT 2.0 MILES N OF THE GLEN HIGHWAY, ABOUT 45
UV4603'MILES W OF THE JUNCTION OF THE RICHARDSON AND GLEN HIGHWAYS, ABOUT
UV4603'3-1/2 MILES N OF THE NELCHINA RIVER, AND 5-1/2 MILES W OF RYANS
UV4603'ROADHOUSE. IT IS ON A HIGH BLUFF THAT IS BARE ON TOP AND THE SW
UV4603'SLOPE IS ALSO BARE. THE MOUNTAIN IS TIMBERED ON THE E SLOPE ALMOST TO
UV4603'THE TOP. THERE ARE TWO TWIN TREES ON A RIDGE ABOUT 3/4 MILE E OF
UV4603'THE STATION. STATION IS ON THE HIGHEST PART OF THE HILL AND IS
UV4603'ABOUT 1/4 MILE N OF AN ABRUPT BREAK OF THE HILL TO THE S.
UV4603'
UV4603'STATION MARK IS A BRONZE STATION DISK WELDED TO A 2-1/2-INCH SOIL
UV4603'PIPE WHICH PROJECTS ABOUT 6 INCHES. IT IS STAMPED HORN 1944.
UV4603'
UV4603'REFERENCE MARK 1 IS E OF THE STATION AND ABOUT 2 FEET LOWER. IT IS A
UV4603'BRONZE REFERENCE DISK WELDED TO A 2-1/2-INCH SOIL PIPE WHICH
UV4603'PROJECTS ABOUT 8 INCHES.
UV4603'
UV4603'REFERENCE MARK 2 IS N OF THE STATION AND AT ABOUT THE SAME ELEVATION.
UV4603'IT IS A BRONZE REFERENCE DISK WELDED TO A 2-1/2-INCH SOIL PIPE WHICH
UV4603'PROJECTS ABOUT 9 INCHES.
UV4603'
UV4603'BOTH REFERENCE MARKS ARE STAMPED WITH THE NAME AND DATE AND WITH
UV4603'THEIR RESPECTIVE NUMBERS.
UV4603'
UV4603'TRIANGULATION STATION FIRE WAS USED AS AN AZIMUTH MARK. IT IS 5
UV4603'MILES W OF THE END OF TRUCK TRAVEL, ABOUT 24 PACES N OF THE CENTER
UV4603'LINE OF THE GLEN HIGHWAY, AND ABOUT 3-1/2 MILES SW OF THE STATION.
UV4603'
UV4603'REACHED FROM THE EUREKA ROADHOUSE BY GOING E ON THE GLEN HIGHWAY FOR
UV4603'17.2 MILES TO TRIANGULAR BLAZE ON STUMP. REACHED FROM RYANS
UV4603'ROADHOUSE BY GOING W FOR 3.5 MILES TO THE SAME PLACE WHICH IS THE END
UV4603'OF TRUCK TRAVEL. FROM HERE PACK NNW TO TOP OF RIDGE AND TWIN PINE
UV4603'TREES, MAGNETIC BEARING 254 DEG, TURN LEFT (W) AND FOLLOW RIDGE
UV4603'TO HIGHEST POINT AND STATION SITE. PACK WILL REQUIRE ABOUT 3-1/2
UV4603'HOURS.
UV4603
UV4603 STATION RECOVERY (1948)
UV4603
UV4603'RECOVERY NOTE BY US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY 1948 (WWK)
UV4603'STATION MARK--A STANDARD NGS DISK STAMPED -HORN 1944-.
UV4603
UV4603 STATION RECOVERY (1949)
UV4603
UV4603'RECOVERY NOTE BY US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY 1949 (RB)
UV4603'FOUND AS DESCRIBED.
UV4603'
UV4603'STATION MARK--A STANDARD NGS DISK SET IN A BOULDER PROJECTING 6
UV4603'IN.
UV4603
UV4603 STATION RECOVERY (1964)
UV4603
UV4603'RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1964 (LGB)
UV4603'THE STATION AND ALL THE MARKS WERE RECOVERED AS DESCRIBED IN 1944 AND
UV4603'FOUND IN GOOD CONDITION.
UV4603'
UV4603'THIS STATION WAS REACHED BY HELICOPTER FROM A GRAVEL PIT ABOUT 1-1/2
UV4603'MILES WEST OF THE NELCHINA LODGE, BY FLYING NORTHEAST ABOUT 2.0
UV4603'MILES TO THE STATION.

*** retrieval complete.
Elapsed Time = 00:00:04


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 11:20 am
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I see a tower there and a pipe with cap here.

Sure looks like a pin cushion to me.

Hold the tower.

Paul in PA


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 11:58 am
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Not a tower, a four foot stand. I have seen a few old ones still intact out west.


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 1:39 pm

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John Hamilton, post: 440535, member: 640 wrote: Not a tower, a four foot stand.

Looks more like an 8-foot stand to me.


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 7:05 pm
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Its what Ive always known as a triangulation station. Made it easy to survey on state plane coordinates here in utah with nothing but a total station. Just sight a few mountain peaks and take shots angles only. Infact in northern utah most of the VRS gps network are either occupying or still reference the mountain peak triangulation station points.


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 7:17 pm
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Jim Frame, post: 440595, member: 10 wrote: Looks more like an 8-foot stand to me.

I agree with Jim on its height. Maybe a stand for a light used in night-time triangulation observations from other stations.


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 7:43 pm
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If the stand is related to the triangulation station disk, why isn't it OVER the disk?


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 8:02 pm
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Andy Nold, post: 440492, member: 7 wrote: UV4603.The horizontal coordinates were established by classical geodetic methods
UV4603.and adjusted by the National Geodetic Survey in July 1986.

Somebody needs to submit GPS observations


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 10:16 pm

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Mark Mayer, post: 440622, member: 424 wrote: Somebody needs to submit GPS observations

Agreed, but...

You misspelled "williwaw".


 
Posted : August 7, 2017 11:01 pm
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It may have been an eccentric station to show the light at the same time it was being observed from. On a bilby tower the light was often above the instrument, but when they used a four foot stand for the instrument they would sometimes have the light eccentric to the station.


 
Posted : August 8, 2017 5:26 am
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Mark Mayer, post: 440622, member: 424 wrote: Somebody needs to submit GPS observations

I have a spare 5800 that I could let cook on it for giggles, but need to come up with a solid miniature light weight tripod suitable for backpacking.
Wouldn't mind returning to spend the night at a near by lake called 'Fossil Lake'. Have a bit more time to scare up a mammoth bone or tooth to add to the collection.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : August 8, 2017 10:08 am
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Might make a tasty breakfast snack for a grizzly.


 
Posted : August 8, 2017 10:29 am
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Holy Cow, post: 440778, member: 50 wrote: Might make a tasty breakfast snack for a grizzly.

Mr. Colt Anaconda says not. Didn't see any bear sign, nothing for them to eat up there. Down along the rivers where the salmon are running is an entirely different story. For me it's always a treat to see one ... at a distance. I've had a momma grizzly and two nearly full grown cubs at spitting distance and as long as they know you're there and don't smell like KFC, it's all good. Just don't surprise one at close quarters.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : August 8, 2017 10:42 am