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(@jimmychou)
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Good morning everyone,

?ÿDoes anyone know what this instrument is? It is commonly used in tunnel surveying and mining.

North seeking

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Posted : 28/01/2021 1:29 am
(@field-dog)
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Looks like a total station with a gyroscope below.

 
Posted : 28/01/2021 2:19 am
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(@flga-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2)
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Is that one of the project you are working on? Tunnel and mine surveying are areas of the surveying profession I have never been exposed to but look very interesting. ?????ÿ

 
Posted : 28/01/2021 5:18 am
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Yes a Leica T## ( the carry handle is removed) and a gyro - the gyro is setup on the surface and oriented - then taken down into the shaft where the same line is the reference - many shafts are accessed through a vertical shaft, so there is no way to back sight a line

 
Posted : 28/01/2021 9:05 am
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Worked at a place that had on in 1982-83, different model, mounted on top of standards of a T2 like an old top mount EDM. Never used it, IIRC, accurate to 20"?

SHG

 
Posted : 28/01/2021 2:28 pm
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@field-dog Exactly.

 
Posted : 28/01/2021 6:25 pm
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Yes, similar to DMT Gyromat 3000, it is a gyroscope with a Leica total station integrated.

 
Posted : 28/01/2021 6:30 pm
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@flga-2-2?ÿ ?ÿYes, tunnel surveying is the type of project my workmates often work on. I can share more photos if you like it.

 
Posted : 28/01/2021 6:40 pm
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@ross-kinnie You are so professional, Ross. Thank you for the explanation!

 
Posted : 28/01/2021 6:45 pm
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@shelby-h-griggs-pls

The instrument you recall is a Wild GAK north-seeking gyroscope. They were usually mounted onto a T-16 or a T-2.?ÿ Accuracy varies from 20" to 30" depending on the instrument used and the latitude. Wild states that the operational range is up (and down) to 75?ø latitude.

I have two working units with a third for parts.?ÿ The T-16 has an endless tangent screw that makes observing the oscillations easier than the T-2. There are two observation types. One uses an accurate clock and the other observes the reversals of the oscillations....think about observing Polaris multiple times at eastern and western elongation and splitting the difference. The instruments are very sensitive so proper procedure is to observe on a known baseline before and after the underground survey work to make sure that the "instrument constant" is the same.?ÿ By "instrument constant" I mean observing the difference in the orientation of the gyro axis and the theodlite's telescope axis.

I've had some interest in the units the last couple of years, but my leeriness to ship them has kept me from doing so. I guess I'd reconsider if somebody showed up on my doorstep waving cash.?ÿ

The one that is shown in the OP is accurate to a handful of seconds (2" to 3" IIRC), but the price is astronomic for that order of magnitude improvement in accuracy. I heard a couple of years ago there was a long wait to get one shipped from the German manufacturer.

 
Posted : 28/01/2021 6:56 pm
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@gene-kooper @Shelby You must mean something like WILD GAK1 or GAK11 gyro as follows. Yes, GAK11 is an old style gyro which is mounted on top of a WILD T16, or T2, etc. Modern gyros are much more accurate, but the prices are much higher.?ÿ

wild heerbrugg gak11
 
Posted : 28/01/2021 7:30 pm
(@beuckie)
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From what i've heard the best instrument for this is the Sokkia Gyro X II

https://eu.sokkia.com/products/optical-instruments/monitoring-specialty-systems/gyro-x-ii-automated-gyro-station

 
Posted : 29/01/2021 1:22 am
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@gene-kooper

When I bought mine, he offered to ship it (from the Netherlands), but I decided to go pick it up in person. The airfare was pretty cheap, about the same as shipping ($400). Plus, I got to spend a few days in Amsterdam...but that is another story...

He had a few others of the same design, they were all military surplus units. It was tough getting through security at the airport, I was pulled out and taken to a private room for search and questioning. And that was before 9/11. The battery and power supply were what concerned them...x-rays couldn't see inside.?ÿ

 
Posted : 29/01/2021 8:22 am
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Posted by: @jimmychou

I can share more photos if you like it.

Yes, please.

 
Posted : 29/01/2021 8:35 am
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