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I'm doing a survey on property that straddles the state line between Claiborne County, Tennessee and Lee County, Virginia. Does anybody know where I might find information on the boundary monuments along this section of the state line.


 
Posted : September 9, 2015 2:52 pm
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Mike Lacey, post: 335715, member: 303 wrote: I'm doing a survey on property that straddles the state line between Claiborne County, Tennessee and Lee County, Virginia. Does anybody know where I might find information on the boundary monuments along this section of the state line.

This must be a parcel that existed prior to Statehood of both States?

Its my understanding that you cannot set any new monuments on a State line without the permission of both States. Many years ago I worked on a survey of a parcel where we could only set the westerly monuments of a parcel - the east line was a State Boundary.


 
Posted : September 9, 2015 3:07 pm
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I would have no issue setting closing corners against a State boundary. I would do some serious reading before going further...


 
Posted : September 9, 2015 4:38 pm
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Jim in AZ, post: 335720, member: 249 wrote: This must be a parcel that existed prior to Statehood of both States?

Its my understanding that you cannot set any new monuments on a State line without the permission of both States. Many years ago I worked on a survey of a parcel where we could only set the westerly monuments of a parcel - the east line was a State Boundary.

Well that would be a real PIA doing surveys in Bristol VA/TN where the boundary splits the city. I have passed through and stopped there through the years and thought of how crazy it must be there.


 
Posted : September 9, 2015 5:39 pm
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The Kentucky Association of Professional Surveyors has a book titled 'Four Steps West', compiled by James W. Sames, III. It is a history of the boundaries of VA, NC, TN & KY. Along with historical narratives of all four states, there are also many monument data sheets with field notes, ties and pictures for the KY/TN line.

You may want to check if a state line commission has ever been formed. That would be a good source of information.

Good luck!


 
Posted : September 9, 2015 6:48 pm

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you might try the http://www.lva.virginia.gov/&apos ;">Library of Virginia I use it all the time to look up old land grants for WV. You might search around and find something on the site.


 
Posted : September 9, 2015 7:24 pm
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Can't set monuments on the state line?

Fine, don't call them as being on the state line.


 
Posted : September 10, 2015 4:13 am
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Robert Hill, post: 335746, member: 378 wrote: Well that would be a real PIA doing surveys in Bristol VA/TN where the boundary splits the city. I have passed through and stopped there through the years and thought of how crazy it must be there.

The state line runs right down the middle of State Street. I have some friends that live up there. I asked them once, suppose you were headed west and got caught speeding by a Virginia cop. Could you simply make a U-turn to evade them?


 
Posted : September 10, 2015 4:15 am
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Mike Lacey, post: 335715, member: 303 wrote: I'm doing a survey on property that straddles the state line between Claiborne County, Tennessee and Lee County, Virginia. Does anybody know where I might find information on the boundary monuments along this section of the state line.

Thanks for your replies. I still haven't found a reliable source for information the the location of the state monuments, but I think I have enough to reestablish the state line in the area I am working.


 
Posted : September 12, 2015 6:02 am
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Jim in AZ, post: 335720, member: 249 wrote: This must be a parcel that existed prior to Statehood of both States?

Its my understanding that you cannot set any new monuments on a State line without the permission of both States. Many years ago I worked on a survey of a parcel where we could only set the westerly monuments of a parcel - the east line was a State Boundary.

Why would it have to existed prior to Statehood? It's not much different from properties crossing the county line. The same deed is filed in each county the property lies. I believe you need to be licensed in both states to survey the entire parcel, which I am.


 
Posted : September 12, 2015 6:14 am

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If I understood correctly, there was a terrible traffic accident recently on a highway where it crossed the Kansas/Missouri line. MDOT and KDOT had to survey everything together as there was a significant question as to exactly where specific bad things were/occurred.


 
Posted : September 12, 2015 10:34 am