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Forgive my ignorance, I've never used this equipment before.

I'm attending an auction next week where this is located. Can anyone provide any info about this equipment?

Thanks in advance, David

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 12:41 pm
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What you have on the left is a battery pack and charger. One the right is a Wild Theodolite, probably a T1 or possibly a T16 with a top point distance meter. They do require particular prisms but you should be able to find info on the net. The instrument will not be digital, so it is not like a total station. My best guess anyway.

- jlw

PS since it looks like there is a target in the left box, there 'may' be a reflector (prism) in there also. Because the EDM is side by side, usually rectangular prisms are used as I recall.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 1:02 pm
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Au Contraire.....t1000 is a "total station" with digital data collection. It was their first I think, and the t1000 was kind of the equivalent to the "t1" for precision, and the t2000 was the equivalent of the t2.

edit: I did some googling and may be wrong. They do reference a t1000 electronic theodolite at the same time as the TC1000. You might need t1000/tc1000 combo to have a complete total station. They used their top-mount distomat for the measurements.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 1:24 pm
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The T1000 dates from the late 80's - early 90's. It's a one second least count with a three second spec. Most did better than that. The removable distomat attached (which makes it a total station) is probably a DI1001, which is relatively fast and will generally do 1km to a single prism. The optics are excellent.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 1:30 pm
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Is that the EDM that mounts with the scope inverted? I used one of those on a T1 in mid 80's for awhile. Not user friendly, but beat taping. Kinda miss those old days when the world was flat & not a bunch of button pushing.

Somebody will buy it.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 1:31 pm
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The Wild DI-1000 Distomat is mounted on the T-1000 in the photo.

You can see a photo of the T-1000 without DI-1000 on the cover of the green manual in the instruement case in the photo.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 1:36 pm
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What Carl said. I still use the box on the right. We always called them Semi-total station. That thing on the top is the distomat and shoots infrared beam from itself rather than out of the sighting scope. Therefore, when you shoot a distance you need to aim the scope at the bottom of the glass instead of the center so the distomat is shooting the center of prism. Makes things a bit different when doing elevation work. I wish someone would build a sturdy gun like that again. Only problem is parts. Electronic display went out on mine and the wild people say they can't find parts to replace it. Not a big deal as there is a display on both sides so I can walk around and read it if need be, and I use data collector anyway.

Don't know about the box on the left except it does contain the wild prism you will need to go with the gun.

Probably worth 1k or thereabouts.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 1:49 pm
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Battery status ??

Derek

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 2:26 pm
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There was one of those in the equipment inventory at a place 1 worked 1990-1995. I would say it probably came out late 1980's. That particular DI (if a 1000) was kind of weak, no super long shots, can't remember the specified range, but probably 1/2 mile would be about right, fairly light weight total station. I see a prism housing in the left box AND the white object in the left box is what the glass itself would of shipped in, hopefully it isn't empty. I wouldn't worry too much about the batteries since Batteries Plus can recell those. This setup was a good state of the art instrument 20-25 years ago, I would still take that over a low end new instrument.

SHG

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 3:13 pm
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> This setup was a good state of the art instrument 20-25 years ago, I would still take that over a low end new instrument.

I concur.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 3:48 pm
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The orange object in the case on the left is the external battery which probably came with the Distomat. It would probably run the whole operation for two or three days. The internal battery to the T1000 may or may not be present. Getting them recelled is not a big problem cost or time wise.

The condition of the T1000 case, the presence of the accessory screwdriver (!) and the manual would indicate to me that this 20-something year old instrument has seen minimal use.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 3:55 pm
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Thanks everyone!!!

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 6:48 pm
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For Gawd's sakes...

get a real Wild tripod for it!

You know Wild instruments need to have their dignity 😉

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 7:30 pm
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Thanks Dave....

I didn't want to be the one to say that.

I think I still have a groove on my right shoulder from carrying a Wild GST-20 tripod, the best ever made.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 9:02 pm
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I started out surveying with one of these back in the 90's, and I have used many of them. It is unusual to see one with this many accessories included. About the only major items I don't see are the glass for the prism, and a pogo pole. You should be able to get those from your Leica dealer easily enough.

Most of these instruments came with a display and buttons on one side only so you have to walk around the gun to shoot the reverse face, but I have seen a few with two displays. The ones with only one display usually have a slot on the other face where you insert a GIF memory card for storing your data. The cards, and the reader that you would use to download the raw data are pretty rare so that's probably not an option now. If you want to use this instrument a lot then you would be looking to get a Y-cable which would allow you to connect the external battery and a data collector to the instrument. I have made up several of these cables and I might still have one if you need it.

As mentioned by others there are several versions of the Distomat unit. Most likely you have a DI 1000 - which will shoot 500m to a single prism in 2-3 seconds. If it's a DI 5S then it will shoot 2500m but each shot is about 7 seconds. As I recall the major issue with these is the mounting hardware. You want to be sure that the latches on the DI are solid or you may have trouble with the copper contacts that transfer power and data between them.

The other major problem which eventually caused us to retire all of ours is that the sealing gaskets eventually dry out so that rainwater or condensation get inside the instrument. The gaskets are no longer available and in our local climate that meant these instruments had to be replaced.

 
Posted : July 28, 2011 10:37 pm
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Thanks again everyone for the great info.

Steve, if I purchase this next weekend, I may take you up on the cable offer!

David

 
Posted : July 29, 2011 6:07 am
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When we had these we used a data collector with the, but I don't recall the model #...
One of the great Wild guns!

PS Edit: It was a GRE3 wild data collector...

 
Posted : July 29, 2011 10:32 am
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Leica had their own DC, the GRE3 and GRE4 along with onboard DC as an option recording to a REC module and I know TDS DC on a 48 back in the day worked, they were a good TS, fully electronic, I always thought the EDM (I believe this was made by Sercel in France for Wild) was the weak link, but nonetheless a pretty nice light weight setup in the day. The huge advantage of a modular TS, was the ability to take the EDM off for sun shots, might need that soon if Light Squared starts broadcasting.

SHG

 
Posted : July 29, 2011 10:48 am
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I used a t2000, it generally had the precision standards of the t2 for angles. Wild was not much for software/firmware department in my humble opinion. Same with Leica at least at first. (I am thinking of the first bar-code levels). However, you have one of the best optical instruments and electronic collection of data....that is pretty darn good. Besides one-man and prismless technology, it was the best out there for precision I think.

The distance meter used to establish calibration baselines in a wild topmount dm (at least the last time I helped measure one).

 
Posted : July 29, 2011 11:40 am
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Theomat Wild T1000 ~ SHELBY

This is what I was talking about, the WILD gre3

 
Posted : July 29, 2011 11:56 am
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