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MightyMoe
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I'm doing a property boundary that meets up with an annexation plat. Many of the corners of the annexation are monumented with caps per LS xxxx. LS xxxx works for me and never surveyed that property. I know this cause when the survey was done he was working for me.

This has happened before, the old company he worked for used up his caps on surveys, I always tell him I wait till I have a controversial corner then I set his.?ÿ

But this time it is a messy boundary there is no reason for him to be placed in that situation. Anyway, going out to check to see if the caps are really his or there was a mistake showing them on the plat.?ÿ


 
Posted : February 27, 2020 10:09 am
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Sounds like someone at the old company needs to be taken out behind the barn to get some education.

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Posted : February 27, 2020 10:22 am
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ages ago, climbing thru the canyons and up the draw... as a new PLS I found a tagged pipe, number was a previous employer, Doan Heryford.

no record, very odd for him, he always filed maps.
Bob Curtis, another previous employer had a map filed with a set a monument in the same area, but no record from Doan.
I gave Doan a call, he search his records, said he had never done any work in the remote location.

I few weeks later I ran a traverse into it from the highway. Bazinga! It came back to me!
It Was Me!

After working for Doan, I went to work for Bob. We did a survey, coming in from the Highway. I must have had some of Doan's tags in my pocket when I set the pipe for Bob.
Approaching from the Highway I recognized the area and remembered the survey for Bob...
I told both of them, We all had a good chuckle.

Bob gave me a fresh tag to reset for him..... I did my new survey, filed a map showing Bob's pipe and tag found per His Map... now things are right in the world again.


 
Posted : February 27, 2020 11:08 am
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Posted by: @mightymoe

the old company he worked for used up his caps on surveys

How does that jive with the laws of your state? Were these caps set with any professional supervision??ÿIt seems to me that there may be grounds for a board complaint here.


 
Posted : February 27, 2020 11:21 am
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@norman-oklahoma

 

Doesn't jive at all with the Oklahoma board.  The firm of E.D. Hill in Oklahoma City had been in business (and the county surveyor) since around 1900.  The son, E.D. Hill, Jr. had been the steering force there since 1950 and passed away in 2002.  His license number was "LS 13" and proudly displayed on every iron pin cap set by the company...even well passed his demise by a number of years (2010 ?).

Someone brought this to the attention of the board and the problem was "quickly" rectified.  The problem was blamed on the field crews that hadn't cleaned the old caps out of the truck...even though they had been through several trucks in that time frame.

 

 


 
Posted : February 27, 2020 11:32 am

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@norman-oklahoma

The old company is no more. There is no license to complain against. 

 


 
Posted : February 27, 2020 11:38 am
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@paden-cash

OKs requirement to have somebody named on a current C. of A., and that the C. of A. be referenced on documents such as OCCRs, at least assures, to a degree, that somebody is minding the store, no matter whose name might be on the cap. WA has a similar requirement but since it doesn't have to go on maps, and isn't actively enforced, it is rather widely ignored. 

 


 
Posted : February 27, 2020 11:50 am
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@mightymoe

It might still be worthwhile protection. 

 


 
Posted : February 27, 2020 11:51 am
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I learned my lesson the hard way.?ÿ Now I keep very tight control of my caps (brass, aluminum and plastic) and only dole out what is necessary for a job.?ÿ When that job is done, I collect all unused caps/tags.?ÿ I'm registered in multiple states and I don't want the wrong caps in the wrong state. 😕 ?ÿ


 
Posted : February 27, 2020 1:42 pm
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@douglas-w-chinn

I wouldn't worry to much about the plastic caps, if your lucky no one will visit them for a few years and then they will be illegible. 😉   

 


 
Posted : March 1, 2020 5:58 pm