prefab steel building
we set hub/tack for form boards
super never calls us back to stake/check form boards
never call us back to set column lines on concrete
calls us last week to check elevations of nuts on the plates, while setting nut elevations we notice the plates are out about .15' horizontally and notify super - told not to worry the steel guys will "make it work"
frantic call at 6pm yesterday, the steel is up and the roof will not fit on can you come check it
we check today, guess what - the plates are still out .15' (we told you last week this will not work)
the entire story then comes out. the concrete guy determined our hub/tack were out .75 inches. he moves them but moves them the wrong way (.75 in + .75 in = .125 ft). they pour off of his lines. concrete guy then sets column lines. they set the plates. they set the steel. they put the roof on and then figure out "oh crap, it don't fit".
hope somebody got some deep pockets. at least they saved a little money by not having that damned expensive surveyor come back out to set the plates!
Ah... I love these horror stories. They make great conversation pieces when you try to explain to someone why they need a surveyor. Thanks!
Can't they just get 50 guys with torches to warp the roof into place? 😛
> prefab steel building
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> we set hub/tack for form boards
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> super never calls us back to stake/check form boards
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> never call us back to set column lines on concrete
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> calls us last week to check elevations of nuts on the plates, while setting nut elevations we notice the plates are out about .15' horizontally and notify super - told not to worry the steel guys will "make it work"
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> frantic call at 6pm yesterday, the steel is up and the roof will not fit on can you come check it
>
> we check today, guess what - the plates are still out .15' (we told you last week this will not work)
>
> the entire story then comes out. the concrete guy determined our hub/tack were out .75 inches. he moves them but moves them the wrong way (.75 in + .75 in = .125 ft). they pour off of his lines. concrete guy then sets column lines. they set the plates. they set the steel. they put the roof on and then figure out "oh crap, it don't fit".
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> hope somebody got some deep pockets. at least they saved a little money by not having that damned expensive surveyor come back out to set the plates!
But the real question is was the tack out by 0.06' or was the concrete guy a TOTAL DORKWAD?
😀
Sounds like somebody stepped over a dollar trying to pick up a nickel.
I'd almost be willing to bet that a few out of work surveyors with some steel experience could probably make a decent living making emergency "adjustment parts" for the building industries that rely on non-surveyor folks for their layout. "Yeah we got that, but it's real expensive"
Yes, someone might get cut "loose" and "lose" their job.
I hope you recorded your stakeout points after each was set, otherwise they will likely be pointing some of the blame towards the stakeout.
sorry spelling police, i was so excited to tell the story i forgot to use my good spelling
> I hope you recorded your stakeout points after each was set, otherwise they will likely be pointing some of the blame towards the stakeout.
we store every shot we stake and then it is dumped and filed by date. we've learned that lesson the hard way.
and i can live with 0.06' for a set point to form batter boards on. the super should have called us back and had us layout the column lines on top of the concrete after it was poured (i look for .015' there).
Dang it. Came along too late. I was gonna announce someone would 'tight' their job by fixing this.
Gonna isn't really a word.
Thier definitely isn't a word.
Loose is a word, but, normally used to describe someone else's girlfriend.
> sorry spelling police, i was so excited to tell the story i forgot to use my good spelling
That's ok, I thoroughly enjoyed your story.
Moved the hub/taks the wrong way????
They needed a surveyor there to say," Your other left."
Since it is known that your survey was off, it'll cost you big to defend or settle, regardless of who else made a mistake.
> Since it is known that your survey was off, it'll cost you big to defend or settle, regardless of who else made a mistake.
I don't know about that. His hubs were pulled up. Who relied on the original location?
geez o pete
> and i can live with 0.06' for a set point to form batter boards on. the super should have called us back and had us layout the column lines on top of the concrete after it was poured (i look for .015' there).
This.
Hey, it might have been even more interesting if they were tilt-up buildings.:-)
> > Since it is known that your survey was off, it'll cost you big to defend or settle, regardless of who else made a mistake.
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> I don't know about that. His hubs were pulled up. Who relied on the original location?
If I were Snoop, I'd make sure all my ducks were in a row.
Ralph
Hey Snoop,
I don’t know about you but I’d be leery of the whole situation. Since someone has already verbally implicated you litigation may be on the horizon.
In Florida construction the surveyor is ALWAYS guilty until he can prove himself innocent. Litigation isn’t cheap, I know from experience.
Have a great week!
One thing about finding things that are wrong, is that one should(maybe must), giver the person who made the error right and not compound the liability by making an uneducated adjustment to the "error".
I'd like to know what happens in court when the concrete person admits(will he?), that he "knew", there was an error and accepted responsibility for correcting the error on his own?