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[USER=11556]@Darryl Beard[/USER]

That is vintage beach machine, I totally love it..........

B-)

 
Posted : April 26, 2016 8:53 am
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Darryl Beard, post: 369521, member: 11556 wrote: I'm building a box for this soon. I had it for sale for a few months and had lots of lookers and a couple of takers that backed out when their wives got wind...
I'm putting her to work. I picked up the Bedslide this past weekend.

Since I can't see the front, all I can tell is that it is from a 69 to a 72.
What year is it?

 
Posted : April 26, 2016 9:41 am
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1972.

It gets a lot of attention. I am thinking about putting a graphic on the side windows to draw some of that attention to my business.

 
Posted : April 26, 2016 10:01 am
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Holy Cow, post: 369536, member: 50 wrote: @daryl beard

That's what I call a land yacht. Put some deck chairs on top to add to the effect. Get some jackstands so you can stabilize the rig, then put your base station on the roof. Leave the tripod in position while moving from job to job for a quick set up.

There is another one locally with a surf board permanently mounted on the roof rack... My Silverado is actually a lot longer and bigger than this rig. I feel like I'm in a car when I drive it.

 
Posted : April 26, 2016 10:07 am
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I used to own a Ford Escape (personal use). They are great highway cars and grocery getters. Off-road capability is minimal. If you have need of climbing steep gravel/dirt roads plan on walking, or bringing a trailer and a ATV/UTV. They simply aren't geared low enough to climb serious grades.

If you survey near paved roads always and can pull an ATV, you should be able to find a set up that works.

 
Posted : April 26, 2016 10:31 am
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imaudigger, post: 369535, member: 7286 wrote: No what really rocks is getting 40 MPG! Love my VW TDI, but wouldn't want to work out of it.
When are the US car manufacturers going to get with the program and move to diesel?

I work out of my VW TDI wagon on the weekends. It holds everything just fine, and gets well over 40mpg. Hand calculated tanks this time of year are 46-47mpg, and low to mid 40's in colder weather.

Why don't US manufactures move to diesel? Thats been a question I've asked myself for decades, as others have as well.

As it turns out, emissions standards clean enough for the EPA are nearly unobtainable for a mid $20k passenger car. We know this because of VWs emissions scandal right now. With the way things are going PR wise and after VWs day in court last week, it looks like VW is going to pay serious $$ to take my car back.

BTW, if you have one of the scandal vehicles and haven't registered for your "customer care package" of $1000, you have until Saturday to do so.

 
Posted : April 26, 2016 3:12 pm
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It doesn't look like much of you care for these:

 
Posted : April 26, 2016 5:35 pm
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Seb, post: 369621, member: 7509 wrote: It doesn't look like much of you care for these:

I discussed this with my boss on Monday. In the event of an accident, and airborne pelican case full of receivers and batteries could be fatal.

 
Posted : April 26, 2016 6:05 pm
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Rich., post: 369042, member: 10450 wrote: I work out of a Kia Sorrento. Works for me. I built this box as anew organizer. Fits all my stuff including my rebars etc. Usually I just have a bundle of stakes down to the left, but right now I'm out of stakes.

Kia was leased for 3 years for only 260/mo. The Kia was nice bc it was cheap but was much bigger than most mid sized Suv. Not as big tho as a full sized.

Kia goes back next month. And we are getting GMC terrains. A bit smaller but should work.

I looked at the Ford Escape. That thing is terribly small. I ruled it out in once glance at the trunk. The Ford edge is about the same size as the terrain but it's much more expensive.

I work out of a Nissan Pathfinder. It works great for what we do. Holds a bundle and a half of stakes, the bucket holds all of the hubs you can pound in a day, as well as rods. A husky 5 gallon bucket accessory holder holds my caps, chisel, brush, flags, and other misc. useful things. The end of the box behind the passenger seat has two small I hooks that screwed in to pull a small bungee chords over to keep the poles from sliding around. It works pretty well but you definitely need to use the bungee, sharp turns can be treacherous! SUVs are horrible to work out of without a box, but with a box they are a great survey vehicle.


 
Posted : April 26, 2016 6:14 pm
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kjypls, post: 369600, member: 9749 wrote: I work out of my VW TDI wagon on the weekends. It holds everything just fine, and gets well over 40mpg. Hand calculated tanks this time of year are 46-47mpg, and low to mid 40's in colder weather.

Why don't US manufactures move to diesel? Thats been a question I've asked myself for decades, as others have as well.

As it turns out, emissions standards clean enough for the EPA are nearly unobtainable for a mid $20k passenger car. We know this because of VWs emissions scandal right now. With the way things are going PR wise and after VWs day in court last week, it looks like VW is going to pay serious $$ to take my car back.

BTW, if you have one of the scandal vehicles and haven't registered for your "customer care package" of $1000, you have until Saturday to do so.

I stopped checking my mileage when it came back at 40 MPG every time. Didn't matter if I was driving on the freeway or steep curvy mountain roads.
I should check it again when it gets warmer and they stop selling winter blended fuel.

Mine is a 2005 so it is apparently OK as far as the scandal goes.

 
Posted : April 27, 2016 7:57 am
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It strikes me as odd to see only one tripod in a land surveying vehicle. In fact, several of the setups only have room for one tripod.

The immediate questions are:

1.) How are the surveyors efficiently adding redundancy to their networks? Do they walk back to the back sight and the check point to "check in" several times during a long set-up or minimally, before they pick up?

2.) When performing boundary surveys do how do they record observations, particularly if turning directions, to back sights, foresight (s)?

3.) Plumb poles/rods are known for getting out of adjustment, certainly less stable than a tribrach, how do these surveyors maintain a high level of accuracy? Or possibly, high accuracy isn't as important in a world of RTK/RTN and low distortion projections? There is logic to questioning why a surveyor worry about conventional instrument accuracy when the RTK is mixed in at 0.09' at 95% (horizontal).

In our survey vehicles we have five Trimax tripods each. One for the instrument and four complete sights - each checked regularly. This is how it has been for my entire career. Maybe I am old fashioned?

DWoolley

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 5:45 am
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Although I do carry more than one tripod in my truck, for most day-to-day work I only use one. Most of my boundary work is urban or suburban; if I'm out in the country breaking down sections, I'll rely more on GPS than a total station for the long work. But when it gets closer in -- sight lengths under 1/4 mile or so -- I generally work solo with a 2-second robotic instrument (GeoMax Zoom80 or Leica TCRA1102plus). I use a prism pole with a 10-minute bubble (similar to the bubble in a tribrach, since most of those are 8- or 10- minute) and a Leica mini-prism (GMP-101) at the other end.

Referring to your questions by number:

1. I use the BSD, BSR, FSD, FSR sequence for measurements, and usually measure only one set. I've not found any significant benefit to repeating sets for sight lengths under 1/4 mile, though I'll do it on occasion if the splits look suspect. If I'm tying more than one point from a setup, I'll make the last foresight the next backsight and move through the points in sequence, working inward toward the gun (i.e. saving the shortest shots for last).

2. Everything is done in the data collector. Since going robotic, I pretty much never use natural backsights anymore; they're much better suited to two-man operation.

3. Pole bubbles are easily checked -- I have a jig in my garage, and a pole tripod for checking in the field -- but the Seco carbon-fiber pole I've been using since 2011 has only needed minor tweaking a couple of times in the intervening years. I use a brace stick with the pole for stability, and can easily hold the bubble centered unless it's windy. In windy conditions I use two sticks, which makes for a rock-solid setup (it's essentially a tripod once gripped). Carrying two sticks is a nuisance, but it works. I do mix RTK into my work more often these days, but mostly as a way of getting on SPC and providing blunder detection.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 6:33 am
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IT'S HERE, IT'S CUTE BUT DINKY. NO TOP RACK, NO STEP BUMPER, NO RECIEVER HITCH , CLOTH INTERIOR, CARPET. TOLD MY BOSS I COULD TAKE IT BUT IT WOULD BE TRASH IN 6 MONTHS....
CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATIONS VIA MY BOSS, WITH THE BRIDGE INSPECTOR FOR HIS RIG- 2015 GMC 1500.... HOPEFULLY, NEED AND APPEAL TO THE PRE-FRONTAL CORTEX WILL WORK OUT, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO NOT HOLD MY BREATH...

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 7:34 am
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Jim Frame, post: 370707, member: 10 wrote: 1. I use the BSD, BSR, FSD, FSR sequence for measurements, and usually measure only one set. I've not found any significant benefit to repeating sets for sight lengths under 1/4 mile, though I'll do it on occasion if the splits look suspect. If I'm tying more than one point from a setup, I'll make the last foresight the next backsight and move through the points in sequence, working inward toward the gun (i.e. saving the shortest shots for last).

I believe a decent amount of folks are turning sets via this method. Productivity definitely goes up.

In Maryland though, my interpretation of our Minimum Standards doesn't allow for it (BS^BS>FS^FS):

09.13.06.03.G (4) The surveyor shall, to the extent necessary to achieve the standards set forth in å¤G of this regulation, compensate or correct for systematic errors, including those associated with instrument calibration.

However, I do believe it would be met if you continued the second portion of your method by turning a set from your last foresight to your original backsite, and adjust.

Hijack off. 3 Tripods in each of our trucks, even when we use our Ford Explorer.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 7:54 am
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Rankin_File, post: 370720, member: 101 wrote: IT'S HERE, IT'S CUTE BUT DINKY. NO TOP RACK, NO STEP BUMPER, NO RECIEVER HITCH , CLOTH INTERIOR, CARPET. TOLD MY BOSS I COULD TAKE IT BUT IT WOULD BE TRASH IN 6 MONTHS....
CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATIONS VIA MY BOSS, WITH THE BRIDGE INSPECTOR FOR HIS RIG- 2015 GMC 1500.... HOPEFULLY, NEED AND APPEAL TO THE PRE-FRONTAL CORTEX WILL WORK OUT, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO NOT HOLD MY BREATH...

is it the 2 liter? the 2 liter is fun to drive, not the greatest mileage, but it sure goes, and no, don't take it off the pavement or good gravel, great on snow and ice on a road, on any kind of off road situation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,6 months sounds about right

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 7:56 am
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Why would anyone in their right mind provide a survey chariot with cloth interior and carpet? On purpose, that is. I mean if you can get a great vehicle for an unusually inexpensive price it really doesn't matter.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 8:18 am
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Brian McEachern, post: 369626, member: 9299 wrote: .... the bucket holds all of the hubs you can pound in a day, as well as rods.

I have pounded a barrel full of hubs in a day...just sayin

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 8:30 am
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Roadhand, post: 370739, member: 61 wrote: I have pounded a barrel full of hubs in a day...just sayin

I'm afraid to ask what you pounded them with :-O

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 9:01 am
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Roadhand, post: 370739, member: 61 wrote: I have pounded a barrel full of hubs in a day...just sayin

Well, I guess if all you do for the day is pound hubs I can see where my bucket would be insufficient. For the surveyor that does more than just pound hubs all day it serves it's purpose quite well. Just sayin.

 
Posted : May 5, 2016 2:20 pm
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Brian McEachern, post: 370798, member: 9299 wrote: Well, I guess if all you do for the day is pound hubs I can see where my bucket would be insufficient. For the surveyor that does more than just pound hubs all day it serves it's purpose quite well. Just sayin.

I wrote a song about it, wanna hear it? Here it goes:

Working on the RailRoad

 
Posted : May 6, 2016 5:16 am
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