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(@davidalee)
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We are working on a large (a few thousand acres) boundary survey. There are several major roads that run through or abut the property. There is railroad right-of-way, interstate right-of-way and several different iterations of U.S. highway right-of-ways.

One road, a U.S. highway, has four different versions. We have each set of plans labeled:
old, old 23 (original layout, 1928, also runs with railroad right-of-way)
new, old 23 (widening, 1958)
old, new 23 (reroute, 1961)
new, new 23 (reroute, 1980)

In addition, the interstate was built in 1961 and rebuilt a portion of the U.S. highway at the interchange.

Fun!

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 6:11 am
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Could really be fun if some are fee simple and some are by prescriptive easement.
Good luck

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 6:34 am
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You, Sir, have a perverted perception of fun!

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 7:04 am
(@davidalee)
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Yes we are dealing with fee and prescriptive rights-of-way, in two different jurisdictions. This property is located on a river and lies in two states.

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 7:23 am
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> old, old 23 (original layout, 1928, also runs with railroad right-of-way)
> new, old 23 (widening, 1958)
> old, new 23 (reroute, 1961)
> new, new 23 (reroute, 1980)
>
This made me laugh. 😀 and I was confused by the time I had finished reading :'(

Good Luck!

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 7:39 am
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I once worked on a road named Highway 881. It was widened and renamed Highway 188. It was hard because some of the maps just had the 881 or 188 in an oval. We had to think very hard on which way was up on the page to know if we were looking at the right highway.

Similarly there was a road “Bratton” which was rerouted and renamed “Nottarb”. And another “Lavud” renamed “Duval”.

Miguel A. Escobar, LSLS, RPLS

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 8:14 am
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Maybe a maintenance guy hung the highway signs upside down, so they renamed the highway instead of turning them all right-side up....;-)

Either that, or the copy of the latter plans were mirror-imaged and backwards.

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 8:20 am
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Worked in a town once that had a Derfla Street and Trebor Lane. I mentioned the name reversal to several locals who all commented that they had never thought of that.

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 9:34 am
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A realigned State Hwy, initially a county road using a ROW Easement and relinquished to the State. Several realignments done over 60 plus years with part of the new route acquired in fee simple and part by a new ROW Easement, all granted by the underlying original owner or their decedents. A few years ago a new realignment with new ROW acquired, a part of the unneeded ROW held in Fee was sold to a fire district and the non fee tract being used as a highway ROW was abandoned by the State in two non contiguous tracts using one document, one tract abandoned back to the underlying owner and the other abandoned to the fire District instead of the underlying owner. A Fire Station was built mostly on one of the abandoned tract and a Partition Plat was done including the abandoned tract using the abandonment document as part of the description along the two tracts sold in fee that made up the Plat which was then recorded using all three document descriptions with no new exterior boundary written. When I questioned this I was told that since the State had acquired a small tract in fee adjacent to the easement, abandonment of the easement would cause that easement to revert to the adjacent owner which was the state, who then sold only the fee tracts. The abandoned ROW documents abandoned the ROW easement to the fire district instead of the underlying fee owner. I was able to get my questions about the legality of this into the record and the fact that all involved were aware of the questions and chose to ignore the issue. Is this legal and title now held by the fire district is clear or is it colored, if so how long and who can they go to for any damages if the underlying owner wants compensation? Will time clear title? Am I out of line as the County Surveyor to even question title issues?
jud

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 1:07 pm
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regarding the backward names, a town in Chickasaw County, Mississippi is named "Trebloc", backwards from a local family named "Colbert".

 
Posted : November 14, 2012 11:08 pm