AI Assistant
Notifications
Clear all

Removing Keel Marks

26 Posts
20 Users
0 Reactions
735 Views
jhframe
(@jim-frame)
Posts: 7465
Member
Topic starter
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Here's a new one for me: I just finished a boundary and topo of a small and somewhat down-at-the-heels apartment complex in town. I used yellow keel to highlight a handful of control points and as taping marks in maybe a dozen spots while filling in details during the field check. I just got email from the owner asking if it was okay for him to remove my "chalk marks." I wouldn't have thought that anyone would find those marks very noticeable, let alone objectionable.


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 8:30 am
DeletedUser
(@deleted-user)
Posts: 8340
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

OCD?


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 8:50 am
Jesusfreak
(@jesusfreak)
Posts: 14
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Did you tell him sure, or question why he wants them gone?

I had a crew that painted a white vinyl fence pink every 30' along it. They were using their paint marks to get their topo grid straight!!!! The owner called me and was furious (rightly so). So I had the crew with cleaner and brushes go scrub the fence. It took them 4 hours to get it all clean.


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 8:57 am
larry-scott
(@larry-scott)
Posts: 1059
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Ah, spray paint. The surveyor's graffiti.

A very good survey and a very upset client.


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 9:25 am
Jp7191
(@jp7191)
Posts: 808
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

I had the same surprise once. We were leaving blue keel marks on a concrete tilt-up building for finish surface of the parking lot. The super was all kinds of upset because paint does not stick to the waxy surface. Makes since! I thought I was doing good using keel! Learn something every day. Jp


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 9:51 am

john-putnam
(@john-putnam)
Posts: 2432
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

One word. Chalk!. Paint or stick.


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 10:02 am
john-putnam
(@john-putnam)
Posts: 2432
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Pet peeve of mine is seeing little white dots all over the place when some careless crew has to mark each shot they have taken.


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 10:04 am
mkennedy
(@mkennedy)
Posts: 683
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

My guess is his tenants are noticing them and panicking that he might sell the place...or otherwise make it even less inhabitable.


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 10:27 am
Tom Adams
(@tom-adams)
Posts: 3453
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

My guess is they wouldn't have noticed the marks if they hadn't seen the field crew making them.


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 11:50 am
Steve D
(@steve-d)
Posts: 121
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Depending on all of the variables; I sometimes drop a square of toilet paper at each shot. It is visible and bio-degradable. Recommend the cheapest I can find. (Also works well for recon or trial lines.)


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 12:02 pm

Ric-Moore
(@ric-moore)
Posts: 841
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Steve D, post: 437665, member: 433 wrote: Depending on all of the variables; I sometimes drop a square of toilet paper at each shot. It is visible and bio-degradable. Recommend the cheapest I can find. (Also works well for recon or trial lines.)

How would one know that was you and not some random bear that likes a certain brand of toilet paper? :p


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 12:23 pm
jph
 jph
(@jph)
Posts: 2331
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Had a job years ago, running control for a new sewer line through a mental hospital compound. The contractor wanted the bench mark elevations of the hydrant bolts written on the hydrants. The residents complained so much that we had to go back and wash them off. No idea how they handled it when the construction started.


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 4:39 pm
Mark Mayer
(@mark-mayer)
Posts: 3371
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Did a job years ago -an apartment being turned into a Condominium. We were instructed not to use any paint, flagging, lath, nothing. They didn't want us to even set any nails (we talked them out of that on the condition that we used the smallest nails possible).


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 9:53 pm
spledeus
(@spledeus)
Posts: 2757
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Mark Mayer, post: 437746, member: 424 wrote: Did a job years ago -an apartment being turned into a Condominium. We were instructed not to use any paint, flagging, lath, nothing. They didn't want us to even set any nails (we talked them out of that on the condition that we used the smallest nails possible).

Had a similar scenario on National Park Service property. We needed to stake a building for construction but they wanted to carefully excavate for historic treasures (I do not believe they found any). So, for this bathroom building, we set offset DHs in the curbs and small PK nails in the asphalt walkways a good 150' beyond the small building. It worked well enough... Now that I think about it, I am not sure why they even needed a layout. The building is far enough away from everything else and is offset from the curb line. I think we wasted some government dollars but not as much as those archaeologists who did not find treasure under the NPS Bathrooms... There's gold in those hills somewhere.


 
Posted : July 19, 2017 10:56 pm
nate-the-surveyor
(@nate-the-surveyor)
Posts: 10538
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Steve D, post: 437665, member: 433 wrote: drop a square of toilet paper

I can just see this.
Somebody driving by sees you pulling out the tp roll, then they roll on, and ASSUME the rest of the story!


 
Posted : July 20, 2017 4:35 pm

Tom Adams
(@tom-adams)
Posts: 3453
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Nate The Surveyor, post: 437890, member: 291 wrote: I can just see this.
Somebody driving by sees you pulling out the tp roll, then they roll on, and ASSUME the rest of the story!

ASSume


 
Posted : July 20, 2017 4:47 pm
richard-imrie
(@richard-imrie)
Posts: 2207
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Steve D, post: 437665, member: 433 wrote: Depending on all of the variables; I sometimes drop a square of toilet paper at each shot. It is visible and bio-degradable. Recommend the cheapest I can find. (Also works well for recon or trial lines.)

Assume wind be the number 1 variable.


 
Posted : July 20, 2017 6:19 pm
nate-the-surveyor
(@nate-the-surveyor)
Posts: 10538
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Tom Adams, post: 437893, member: 7285 wrote: ASSume

I can just hear this uppity reel estate lady, talking with her co-conspirator, and telling the story, "I saw this guy in an OPEN field, doing his business.... and get this... it was a SURVEYOR!!!,,,,,..."


 
Posted : July 20, 2017 6:47 pm
2xcntr
(@2xcntr)
Posts: 382
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Thought it was kiel..... keel is that thing on the bottom of a boat.


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 6:45 am
paden-cash
(@paden-cash)
Posts: 11086
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Nate The Surveyor, post: 437890, member: 291 wrote: I can just see this.
Somebody driving by sees you pulling out the tp roll, then they roll on, and ASSUME the rest of the story!

True story:

I once had a co-worker that was convinced spraying his clothing with 'Deep Woods Off' would stain his khakis...so he was in the habit of pulling two or three pieces of TP off the roll (that is only in the back of the truck when you DON'T need it), and then spraying them down with Off after he tucked them into his back pockets so they would hang about the back of his knees.

We all were used to seeing him with his TP drifting behind him as he walked. He and the client that had met us out on the job wound up in a conversation and the client kept craning his neck around to look at the butt-wipe that was hanging from my (oblivious) co-worker's back side. It was hilarious to see.


 
Posted : July 21, 2017 7:23 am

Page 1 / 2