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I am referencing an assessors map in a letter I am preparing to a client (also an attorney). I want to use the assessor map to indicate the properties in the three deeds that I am referring to. My letter basically says "...there are no gaps, gores, or overlaps in the three deeds, see the attached to identify which deed goes with which property". In this case it is much easier to refer to this than prepare a map of my own, and it will serve them better because they can see that it relates to what they are used to seeing (after years of trying to resolve a problem without a PLS).?ÿ?ÿ

I want to make a short statement, in my letter, that assessor maps is for the tax assessor, and shouldn't be relied on for surveying needs. Don't use its dimensions, don't use its bearings. Anyone care to share a statement that they have used, or assist a fellow PLS with his "writers block"?

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Posted : February 14, 2018 10:22 am
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Here is what our assessor uses:

This service has been provided to allow easy access and a visual display of County information. Every reasonable effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of the maps and data provided; nevertheless, some information may not be accurate. The County of Los Angeles assumes no responsibility arising from use of this information. THE MAPS AND ASSOCIATED DATA ARE PROVIDED WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. Do not make any business decisions based on this data before validating your decision with the appropriate County office.


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 11:00 am
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I am sure a team of County Counsel staff word-smithed the statement to be bulletproof from a risk standpoint.


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 11:01 am
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I would not use an Assessor's map for that purpose unless you can provide the entire map (which probably includes a caveat) and have checked all dimensions thereon. At that point, it would be easier, more accurate and convincing to prepare a professionally drafted exhibit than to cut and paste another's work.?ÿ?ÿ

The note on the Assessor's maps that I use: "This map is for the purpose of assisting in locating your property and is not guaranteed to show accurate measurements."?ÿ This seems counter to your assignment.?ÿ

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dhunter: That is one heck of a CYA note. Thank you.

I may use something of the like, but shorter.?ÿ


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 11:30 am

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I would make a map, how many times have you told Clients not to use a tax map, the information is not correct. Also how do you know there no or gaps or gores are you just going off the tax map or is there field work involved??ÿ

We can't be telling clients not to trust the Tax maps, then tell them to use it. Why would they need us?


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 12:45 pm
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Are all the deeds on the same basis of bearing?

That is typically what trips up most people.

I would produce my own map.


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 5:37 pm
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@vern

I have one on my desk that has a bogus description.

The property description is based upon two surveys with different bearing source put together to divide an estate.

The boundary of the estate is based upon magnetic north and according to google earth appears in the neighborhood.

The survey of the highway that passes thru the estate is some -30?ø out of whack to the world going West from the property and -55?ø out of whack going East due to a 25?ø error in the Delta Angle of the highway curve.

And of course, the client is only concerned with locating the northwest corner and does not want a complete survey.

And it is a tax sale property and they claim their funds are limited.

They must have spent their extra funds for property taxes on their multi million dollar residence.

I am laughing so hard inside because in the back of my mind I feel that I am being pranked by someone that actually believes he has got me this time.

Will hit them with a decent number and let the low ballers take a bite out of this possible career ending project.


 
Posted : February 14, 2018 7:38 pm
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There are 4 separate properties. They started as one, in about 2000. In 2004 it split in half, so now there are two. In 2006 a property line adjustment was done (between the two from the 2004 split), followed immediately by another split, so then there are three. Then in 2009, one of the three splits, making 4. Most of these sold upon splitting, but the original owner retained one. Original owner gets foreclosed on, and the bank takes, via a Quit Claim Deed, what the original owner BOUGHT, as opposed to what he still owned. Note: All the property splits mentioned, were by a subdivision, were surveyed and monumented (by the same PLS), and have no discrepancies on the subdivisions.?ÿ

My services have been to determine what happened and how to correct that Quit Claim Deed. We are 90% done with that, and the bank (that forclosed) wants to know that there are no other problems with the other properties. That is where I was considering using a tax map, since everyone in this process, over the last year, is familiar with looking at this particular tax map.?ÿ

After pondering it for a little bit, and reading the above, I do think it will be best to make my own map.?ÿ


 
Posted : February 16, 2018 10:53 am