eddycreek, post: 415646, member: 501 wrote: I've got 83 RW monuments to set on a street job in Murray, Ky. Ky. now requires these.
This is what happens when the water lines are not as deep as they are supposed to be.
How much is that going to cost you to repair?
eddycreek, post: 415646, member: 501 wrote: I've got 83 RW monuments to set on a street job in Murray, Ky. Ky. now requires these.
This is what happens when the water lines are not as deep as they are supposed to be.
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Eddy-
Don't you have frost in Ky ?
4 foot minimum here for ALL water pipes.
Cheers,
Derek
The waterline may have been installed to proper depth initially, then the area regraded. Many years ago I did construction staking for a new library. The construction company got a change order to replace about 1000 feet of 12 inch water line. A new road had just been built. The water line had been put in the right location for the planned road but nobody had considered the regrading, maybe they didn't have the grading info. The waterline had only been installed for one year. After regrading the roadway it was only a couple feet deep.
Somethings similar to my old company happened once. Planting 30" IP's for a rural farmyard subdivision, when a truck from the Provincial telecommunication company came up to the field crew. They had cut the line to a town, planting one of the pins. The line was supposed to be around 5 feet down, but obviously wasn't. Anyways, a few weeks later, my company received a bill for around $1200 to replace the line. Our crew went back their the next week, sure enough repairing the line, they destroyed the IP. They replanted it, then sent the phone company a bill for the exact same amount. Never heard from again about it.
Jim in AZ, post: 415753, member: 249 wrote: How much is that going to cost you to repair?
Not gonna cost me a dime. Thats between the KyDOT and the water department. Was putting it where the state R/W plans said put it, to the depth they said to drive it in the standard drawings. Besides, I'm working for the contractor, it's their baby. I did tell them, the state and the utilities, to decide which R/W monuments of the rest of them to leave out. I suspect it will be most of them as there are lines all over the place, and they wont guarantee they are exactly on it with their marks. If they were where they are supposed to be, we wouldn't hit any.
I wiill say, Ive set a million stakes/pins/monuments in the past 40 years and thats the first time I ever hit anything. Actually, I didn't hit it, the helper did.
I suspect the state will send the water company a bill for resetting thats about exactly the same as the water company bill if they try it.
DEREK G. GRAHAM OLS OLIP, post: 415756, member: 285 wrote: +++++++++++++++++++++++
Eddy-Don't you have frost in Ky ?
4 foot minimum here for ALL water pipes.
Cheers,
Derek
Yes, here they are supposed to be 36" deep I believe.
eddycreek, post: 416080, member: 501 wrote: Not gonna cost me a dime. Thats between the KyDOT and the water department. Was putting it where the plans said put it, to the depth they said to drive it in the standard drawings. Besides, I'm working for the contractor, it's their baby. I did tell them, the state and the utilities, to decide which R/W monuments of the rest of them to leave out. I suspect it will be most of them as there are lines all over the place, and they wont guarantee they are exactly on it with their marks. If they were where they are supposed to be, we wouldn't hit any.
eddycreek, post: 416080, member: 501 wrote: Not gonna cost me a dime. Thats between the KyDOT and the water department. Was putting it where the state R/W plans said put it, to the depth they said to drive it in the standard drawings. Besides, I'm working for the contractor, it's their baby. I did tell them, the state and the utilities, to decide which R/W monuments of the rest of them to leave out. I suspect it will be most of them as there are lines all over the place, and they wont guarantee they are exactly on it with their marks. If they were where they are supposed to be, we wouldn't hit any.
I wiill say, Ive set a million stakes/pins/monuments in the past 40 years and thats the first time I ever hit anything. Actually, I didn't hit it, the helper did.
I suspect the state will send the water company a bill for resetting thats about exactly the same as the water company bill if they try it.
I hit a copper water service line once with a rebar. It kept bouncing oddly so I dug until I found the waterline - didn't even scratch it.
Got a call one July afternoon from a guy one time who was so frantic he couldn't talk. He just told me I had to come and see what a horrific thing my crew chief had done. Got there and found a 2" P.K. nail w/washer driven in his driveway at the corner of my client's parcel with an orange paint circle around it. This guy couldn't have cared less that his driveway was encroaching 5 feet onto the neighbor. What he did care about was his heating element mesh, which consisted of a 2" x 2" grid of wire, 1" below the surface of the concrete! He was about to lose his mind - he kept telling me that he couldn't tell if the nail went through the wire and that electricity might be "leaking out." I tried to explain that if the power was turned off there wasn't a problem, and that electricity wouldn't be "leaking out" under any circumstances. He didn't buy it - thought he was going to have a breakdown right there on the driveway. He finally got enough control of himself to ask me what I was going to do about it. I told him I wasn't going to do anything. I told him to turn the power on the next time it snowed and if the snow melted there was no problem. He asked me how I could be sure that electricity wasn't "leaking out" and I told him to monitor his electricity bill. I had to explain several times that if his bill wasn't as high as it was in the winter there probably wasn't a problem. I think he finally understood, but I'm still not sure. Thankfully I never heard from him again. I found out some time later that he was our symphony conductor...
Jim in AZ, post: 416110, member: 249 wrote: I found out some time later that he was our symphony conductor...
Similar hand gestures and facial expressions to an I-man.
Richard Imrie, post: 416115, member: 11256 wrote: Similar hand gestures and facial expressions to an I-man.
But probably smells better
jim.cox, post: 416116, member: 93 wrote: But probably smells better
But equally passionate.
All you had to say was "musician". You could have put this in the "unhinged" thread automatically just because he was a musician.
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That should get some vicious retaliation started.
Holy Cow, post: 416130, member: 50 wrote:
That should get some vicious retaliation started.
Fingers crossed.
So in reference to I-man smell and that picture of the conductor, that fellow with the violin seems to have caught a whiff of something,
eddycreek, post: 415646, member: 501 wrote: I've got 83 RW monuments to set on a street job in Murray, Ky. Ky. now requires these.
This is what happens when the water lines are not as deep as they are supposed to be.
I spent a few years on Olive Street down there. Great Town! My Pops and Wife are grads from Murray State! Go Racers!
Jules J., post: 415656, member: 444 wrote: We're going through the 811, One Call thing in Mississippi. It was brought to our attention if we surveyors didn't call we would be liable for the repair. But if we called and the utilities weren't located within 5 day ( I think that was the time limit?) we were free to drive away. But we had to file a complaint before driving any pins. SUCKS! But it is what it is. So now surveyors have to file a One Call locate utilities before we start a job. Changes my way of thinking. And puts me 10 days to 2 weeks behind starting a survey.
We have the same system in Florida and it is mandated by state statute. If you call and submit a locate ticket and you break something, you are not responsible. But you have to give them three business days to mark. Problem is, utility companies will not come out and mark utilities for surveyors making such a call unless you pay them to. The only way they will mark their lines is to say that you are actually digging and even then there is no guarantee they will mark anything.
