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(@crashbox)
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In the middle of the three mon's on the left, set a 2" brass cap stamped with a LARGE "?" in its center...

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 2:39 pm
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Or if you want future surveyors to use yours, set a new one and smash all the others (including any that may truly be correct) into the ground where they can't be seen. That outta work too. 🙂

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 2:40 pm
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Bushwhacker, post: 411027, member: 10727 wrote: I have never known of a 1/4 Section Corner to have 7 different positions nor have I read of it in any manuel

I just set one and there was a big rock on the way, so I a few reference marks about a foot away. Don't know why anyone would put that rock there?

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 3:13 pm
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Wonder if there's a Guiness Book of World Records category for the most number of monuments marking a single point.....hmmmm.

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 3:38 pm
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The thing on the right is laying down, so is disturbed and probably came from the area to the left. That leaves a couple of nails and a larger rod. The nails were probably placed by people who didn't find the shallowly buried rod. Lacking any other evidence, I'd go with the larger rod near the top of the picture. Especially so if it fit measurements well.

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 3:52 pm
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Then, place salt at the ones you want to "disappear". Trouble is, some other surveyor, *may* come, find the "VERY OLD and RUSTED rebar, and hold it, thinking it is the older one!
OR,
Just do the Kent quickie dickie thing, and pull all the erroneous markers.
So much simpler....

N

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 4:29 pm
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In recording States the answer should be available with some research. Which monument has a connection to the original Corner?

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 5:00 pm
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It is not in a recording state. The original conveyance does not even call for any monuments.

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 6:54 pm
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mattsib79, post: 410968, member: 1138 wrote: I hate finding things like this.

Come on, everyone knows the punched spike is the point, the two pk's are just control positions the chief set, they though the monument was a bit off center and the equipment would get mowed down, fortunately a better chief came along and eye balled the position better.

All jokes a side, this is an education and training issue, just because you need a control point doesn't mean you have to pound a new nail in.

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 7:40 pm
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OK, gang. Presuming that the OP cannot identify any one of the marks as the "original", and understanding that he is not in a recording state, should set his own and
a) leave the others in place, or
b) withdraw all the others, leaving only his own?

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 7:50 pm
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Mark Mayer, post: 411071, member: 424 wrote: OK, gang. Presuming that the OP cannot identify any one of the marks as the "original", and understanding that he is not in a recording state, should set his own and
a) leave the others in place, or
b) withdraw all the others, leaving only his own?

c) I'll bite, excavate the bent railroad spike its countersunk a bit been around awhile, since its a non recording state, check its position against the deeds you have pulled and OCCUPATION, if the excavated base fits yank it and reset, if not, you got more work to do. Budget aside.

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 8:09 pm
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Punt. Tell the client to call a lawyer to fix his title issues.

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 8:10 pm
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Holy Cow, post: 411077, member: 50 wrote: Punt. Tell the client to call a lawyer to fix his title issues.

Thanks. I need a new set of pants now.

 
Posted : 26/01/2017 8:17 pm
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Happy to be of help.;);)

 
Posted : 27/01/2017 5:45 am
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The original post picture reminds me of the sidewalks and roads where I used to walk outside of the building for the surveying dept. at school. All of the different points that were set by several different students on possibly the first day of any field work (just temp./ not for an actual boundary). It's pretty bad/sad these "pin cushions" are created when a little more work, research or investigation could have prevented them. The J. Lucas book is still on my list to get and read as I continue to study for exams and hopefully become a good surveyor. Looking forward to seeing responses for question above and would be good to see an example of how to plat with 7 different pin cushions found and how to report if none are confirmed as original.

 
Posted : 27/01/2017 6:30 am
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