Found this today - Belongs to the same guy
Must be a 0.20' wide right-of-way for endangered snakes in the area 😉
There has to be more to this story.
People do not pin cushion themselves....right?
Of course not.
Don
Must have had an extra rebar and cap he needed to use somewhere.
[sarcasm]the left one is the property line (of a 0.5000 acre tract) intersecting the road row. The right one is on the row and is the PC of a 1^ curve to the left...if the draftsman would have just run the line to the PC, the side lines of the lot wouldn't have been parallel- AND-- AND IT'S A BIG AND!!! the lot would have been 15 square feet under the minimum lot size of .5000 acres!!! [/sarcasm]
[sarcasm]What else would you do when the existing marker isn't big enough for another punch mark?[/sarcasm]
Are they supposed to mark the same point or is it a silly planner/engineer design that created a slight differce in corner location? Those pins look like they were set at the same time.
> Are they supposed to mark the same point or is it a silly planner/engineer design that created a slight differce in corner location? Those pins look like they were set at the same time.
I have certainly seen that situation, as I'm sure most others have.
I would not have hidden the surveyors number.
Me too, I saw once where a platted sub front lot corner was 0.07' from a PC of a curve in the R/W, and Florida law requires you to find/set both...
[msg=157780]Previous thread on same subject.[/msg] Also includes pictures.
For the record, I would not have blacked out the numbers either. I didn't in this old thread. Perpetrators should be flushed into the open.
Without context ....
it's hard to comment intelligently.
If this was a rural setting - then it's stupid.
On the other hand, if this was a row of townhouses where each lot had to be exactly 20' wide and you came into or out of a curve & regulations said all lot corners and all PC & PT need to be set, then the surveyor didn't have a choice.
One thing I emphasize in my ethics classes that I teach is to GET THE FACTS before making any judgement or decision.
Without context ....
> Without context ....it's hard to comment intelligently.
But commenting without context is this place's raison d'être.
That an jumping to conclusions 😀
Pin Cushion (US Mineral Survey)
I see these from time to time...here's the latest:
...to Corner No.3, a sawed pine post 4x4 ins x 4 ft. long, set 18 inches in Ground, marked....
Thence N 35°37' W 0.3 ft. to Corner No.4, a sawed pine post 4x4 ins x 4 ft. long, set 18 inches in Ground, marked....
I have also seen BOTH "corners" marked on the same Stone, but "double-posts" are more common.
At least he only had to dig one hole!
Soooo...sometimes there ARE two corners VERY close together!
Loyal
Pin Cushion - context
These two markers were set to mark the same corner.
The property is 50' wide in a city block, made up of two 25'x125' lots
Original subdivision 4-14-1888
Official City Survey 5-13-1898 (laying out control lines & monuments)
The majority of properties w/in the block range from 37.5' to 50'wide
bound by street on one side and public alley on the other
After doing research (we are a recording state)
The 1st survey was done in April 2000, prior to demo of old home
The 2nd survey was done in March 2001, post construction of $700,000 new home
Both surveys indicate setting #5 Rebar w/ Red Cap Marked PE-LS XXXXX
Both markers are inline East/West
The North/South differential 0.18'
Both markers are at grade and were found by
kicking the sod clear after sweeping w/ pin finder
Pin Cushion - context
Given those facts - it's wrong & a disgrace to the profession. The crew should have pulled the first one when they discovered it was wrong.
Pin Cushion - context
> Given those facts - it's wrong & a disgrace to the profession. The crew should have pulled the first one when they discovered it was wrong.
[sarcasm]Well, do they at least get credit for actually trying to set the corner, TWICE?[/sarcasm]
Pin Cushion - context
Sounds like either the Surveyor isn't supervising or the crew isn't trustworthy. Either way he better figure it out or he'll pay the price...
I do know a few surveyors in Colorado that set pins wherever their data collector tells them to set a pin. They wonder why anyone has a problem with this. If they survey the same property 3 times, you get 3 sets of pin gardens. In some cases, if this is not the platted distance between a property corner and a point of curve, then it is illegal. In all other cases, it is substandard practice.
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I meant to add that in my presentations, I try not to give away the LS number in any of my cases - but preface all of my presentations by telling my audiences that in every example I show, the facts are public - and the surveyor WANTS us to know he is setting multiple monuments, saying so on his plat which is filed in the public record.
In cases like this, it might be a good idea to erase the number because it has nothing to do with the message.
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