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firestix
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Did a quick retracement survey of a parcel 50x150 that was originally surveyed in 1975.?ÿ Found 2 corners one disturbed/leaning atrociously and the other pristine.?ÿ The other 2 corners were somewhat difficult.?ÿ

One was an iron rod sticking out of the ground about 2 feet tall and just inches away from a massive root system of an fairly mature hardwood.?ÿ My gut tells me (along with the measurements I took) that the tree engulfed the original corner over the last 45 years. I think someone re-staked the iron as close as they could to the original location.?ÿ (outside of reporting what I found, how would I handle this?)

The other corner was at the base of power pole right next to a telephone pedestal.?ÿ Dug up 2 iron rods within a foot of each other.?ÿ I'm pretty sure one was a grounding rod for the power pole.?ÿ If the proper corner was properly flagged, it would have been easy.?ÿ However, it had my son scratchin his head for a minute.

Every survey brings me closer to the realization that there is no "in and out" boundary survey.

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Posted : January 10, 2021 12:06 am
holy-cow
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This is why we get paid the big bucks.?ÿ If it was easy, people would do it for themselves.

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 2:15 am
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Posted by: @firestix

I'm pretty sure one was a grounding rod for the power pole.

That's why I'm always careful when I dig near a power pole. As you know, the smoothness of the rod identifies it as a grounding rod.

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 5:12 am
fairbanksls
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How well do they check with the adjoining owners corners you've found?

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 7:42 am
bill93
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Be thankful you have one good monument. But you need to go beyond that lot.?ÿ How do things fit with the adjoiners?

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 10:43 am

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@field-dog Smooth rod and usually a wire clamp in the top 2-3 inches.

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 11:39 am
Norman_Oklahoma
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@stephen-ward

Keep digging. If you get down 6 feet or so and still haven't found the bottom of the rod you can safely assume that it's a ground rod.?ÿ

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 1:37 pm
Norman_Oklahoma
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Its normal to find few, if any, of a properties monuments. After all, that is why they are calling for a survey. Get busy, find some remote monuments, and put Humptey-Dumptey back together again.

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 1:45 pm
firestix
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@holy-cow

We get paid big bucks?

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 2:19 pm
firestix
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Found a good amount of monuments around.?ÿ My plan is to reset the leaners and then calculate the point of the corner that falls in the middle of the tree.?ÿ I've heard some say that I should let the leaners stay where they are.?ÿ (I'm kinda of the mindset that I should leave the situation in better condition than I found it.)

Thoughts?

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 2:26 pm

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Rehabilitate?ÿ

 
Posted : January 10, 2021 8:17 pm
paul-in-pa
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The tree is the monument. To verify that, there are two or three adjacent lots that also share that monument, it is typical to locate corresponding monuments on those lots also, then use the preponderance of the evidence. If you recalculate your lots measurements you are also changing adjacent lots. Go back and finish your job. A rode sticking 2 feet out of the ground is a marker that says the corner is near hear. That is it is a monument to a monument.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : January 11, 2021 6:02 am
stephen-ward
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@norman-oklahoma I usually go a different route.?ÿ I start widening my search area looking for the real corner.

 
Posted : January 11, 2021 1:45 pm
Norman_Oklahoma
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@stephen-ward

I didnƒ??t have to dig the full 6 feet before I learned to recognize a ground rod for what it is. But for some people, that is what it takes.

 
Posted : January 11, 2021 9:27 pm