setting pins before surveying
> Since they were in place when you first arrived on the site, why can't they be described as being found? Monument size requirements only apply to those that are set by the surveyor.
but..I would think that it would be the surveyor's duty o lace monuments that meet state standards.
after all, the property owner's monuments were only in the ground for a short period of time and for demonstration purpose of his intent.
I guess in hindsight. One could have given the property owner the monuments and let him set them...then capped them while doing the survey.
I use 1" galvanized pipe, so I would drive my pipe right over the 1/2" rebar (which isn't much more than wire anyway) and set my cap on that.
Whether you tag the irons the client set, set your own over the top, or remove the client's rebar and place your own monuments at the same locations doesn't matter much since those rebar were apparently set for your guidance at this time.
The important things are that you preserve the locations as they are the clearest indication of grantor's intent you could ask for, and that you have durable monuments at those locations that are properly tagged or capped with your license #.
I agree with holding the client's rebars and explaining just what you did. As an added bonus, if someone later FUBARs a written description that doesn't jive with the rebar, you statement that the landowner set them will make those 1 bit monuments golden. Like -
The new boundary was determined by the client, who set 1/2" rebars at all angle points except where the new lines intersected the parent tract. I held these monuments and placed yellow plastic caps marked “XXX” on them and then calculated and monumented the positions of the intersections of the new boundary lines with the parent tract at locations approved by the client. At these points I set (whatever your standard mon description is)
setting pins before surveying
> Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer integers.
There is a certain beauty in even feet and even bearings. 🙂
> I understand what you are doing, Perry, and sometimes that really does make sense. Work with the terrain instead of forcing a rectangle where one should not be.
I have done this also.
setting pins before surveying
> > Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer integers.
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> There is a certain beauty in even feet and even bearings. 🙂
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> > I understand what you are doing, Perry, and sometimes that really does make sense. Work with the terrain instead of forcing a rectangle where one should not be.
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> I have done this also.
Between wetlands, ledge outcrops, steep slopes, views, and woodland buffers (between lots), the best lots around here are rarely end us rectangular (let alone even distances).
Have him reset legal monuments and cap them.
Note on your survey that you capped the monuments as placed by landowner where he desired the new corners to be located.
There, that was easy, huh?
Our CSMs carry a statement from us that we divided the land under the client's direction and control. We don't require that he set the internal monuments, so it's a bit like lily-gilding.
