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I went and took it last Wednesday.?ÿ There is no doubt that I will be invited to take it again.?ÿ My major downfall was the proportioning problems.?ÿ Does anyone know of a good book of test problems I could get?


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 8:21 am
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https://www.amazon.com/U-S-Public-Survey-System-Missouri/dp/1537464736


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 9:43 am
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I agree with Dan. Get Dick's book and do all the practice problems. The MO test is no joke. The protraction and proportions will whip your butt. I have some good material if you're interested send me a message. FYI, Arkansas test is another dose of the MO test.?ÿ


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Posted : July 14, 2020 9:56 am
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There are some really oversized sections in Missouri.?ÿ I can see why they put emphasis on that in the test.


 
Posted : July 14, 2020 11:16 am
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Well, the verdict came in and it was as I suspected.?ÿ I flunked the second part, so I will be getting that book and taking the practice problems.


 
Posted : August 5, 2020 7:12 am

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@tommy-young  I highly recommend this class - at least the Friday session - Looks like it will be streamed this year. This will be a one on one setting and you can ask Dr. Elgin (who grades the test) direct questions and explanations. You will also be able to buy the book directly from him if you want. 

https://www.missourisurveyor.org/images/1589/document/review-course-2020_526.pdf

 


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Posted : August 5, 2020 8:21 am
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@stlsurveyor

I will second that motion.  If I were wanting to be licensed in Missouri I would make a point to be in attendance.  Have attended numerous CE programs in Missouri and know they only put on really good speakers and information.  Keep in mind the primary instructor WROTE THE BOOK that is the basis of the test.


 
Posted : August 5, 2020 8:47 am
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If you get a chance to take any class from Dr. Elgin, do it. He changed the entire direction of my career almost 30 years ago. I suspect thst is true for most with Missouri roots..


 
Posted : August 5, 2020 9:40 am
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@thebionicman Oh yeah...When I was coming of age in Surveying my mentor told me, "Every time you see Dr. Elgin at a conference you make sure you introduce yourself and talk with him". I followed that suggestion. Today he knows who I am, I email with him fairly regularly, he has spoken at the St. Louis Chapter meeting often, and as of today I accepted a teaching position (part time) with his partner in crime Dr. Paiva.

Dr. Elgin is clearly a legend in the surveying profession and regardless of where you practice one can gain a lot of knowledge from him. He is full of stories and has probably been there and done that.

Funny story.....I was surveying on the side of a local road in St. Louis about 8 years ago and low and behold Dr. Elgin drove by. I yelled, "Hey that's Dr. Elgin"! He has his window down and heard me. He stopped right on the side of the road and walked back to us. This was before he knew me personally but we still ended up talking for about 30 minutes on the side of the road about surveying and idiot drivers. 


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Posted : August 5, 2020 10:00 am
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If it was 30 minutes he must have been in a hurry. Dr. Paiva is another good one. Congrats on the position. 


 
Posted : August 5, 2020 10:30 am

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Well, the verdict from the retest came in.

I passed.

There's no point in anyone taking that test without buying Dick Elgin's book and working all the problems.?ÿ I did and I still wasn't confident that I passed.

Missouri makes 8.?ÿ Mississippi is next on the hit list.


 
Posted : February 3, 2021 8:59 pm
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Congratulations.?ÿ Going in reverse alphabetical order I bet.?ÿ Start with Tennessee and work towards Alaska.


 
Posted : February 3, 2021 10:28 pm
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@tommy-young Congratulations! I told you that book was was the golden ticket! Welcome aboard. If you don't have Arkansas and interested I'd take it ASAP. The two states are kissing cousins and the test are damn near the same. Get it while it's fresh in your mind.?ÿ

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Posted : February 4, 2021 5:12 am
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@stlsurveyor I've thought of taking Arkansas, but that's just not a state we do much work in.?ÿ At some point I'm going to have to throw my hands up and say "No mas".?ÿ Missouri makes 8 states.

?ÿ

The avatar is about as edgy as I can get, haha.


 
Posted : February 4, 2021 9:35 am
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@tommy-young yeah 8 is a lot. I have 6 and it takes a concerted effort to keep it all straight.


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Posted : February 4, 2021 11:18 am

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YES or NO will suffice.?ÿ Are all of them former members of CSA?


 
Posted : February 4, 2021 11:57 am
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Posted by: @holy-cow

His previous 7 are listed in his profile, and the answer is No.

?ÿ


 
Posted : February 4, 2021 12:04 pm
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@holy-cow If we'd have had Indiana and Illinois, we'd have been unstoppable.


 
Posted : February 4, 2021 1:29 pm
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@stlsurveyor It would have been 9, but the commies in charge of Florida's continuing education beat me down, and I let that one go.


 
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Congratulations.

I am working through that book now to become familiar with the problems. I have a few yrs to wait though before taking it.

Any suggestions on additional study material?


 
Posted : February 4, 2021 6:22 pm

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