Then you would have gained one of my great-great grandfathers.?ÿ But, then, he might have done in my great-grandfather on a different side of the family (Ohio)---or vice versa--so I wouldn't be here to make this comment.
Somehow the great-grandfather from southern Illinois (which tended not to agree with upstate Illinois) did not serve.?ÿ I'm not sure but I think he may have lost a brother or two regardless of which side they joined.
The avatar is about as edgy as I can get, haha.
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I have 6 and it takes a concerted effort to keep it all straight.
Same here with five. ?ÿ
@jbw Obviously you need the state rules and regulations, but I don't think you need to buy anything other than Dr. Elgin's book.
Anyone else think it's a bit of a conflict of interest for Elgin to be the author of the test, the grader of the test, and the seller of a book (which he peddles at the review sessions,) which prepares you for the test he oversees?
Could be, yes.?ÿ But on the other hand, you should be able to rely upon his books as the definitive reference source knowing what the expected "correct" response should be.
Not saying that's the most appropriate way for handling a professional level licensing exam process.
?ÿMissouri has a unique center of section procedure - a must learn.
Well here is my take on it as a home state Missouri Surveyor...Back around 2013 the MO Board split the test from a single two hour exam into two one hour portions. Why? Because folks were making a 70% passing score and getting zero section breakdown questions correct. Zero. This was causing problems in the years prior to splitting the exam as lots of StL and KS surveyors who rarely surveyed in the rest of the state were doing a fantastic job screwing up country surveys. They were going out and proportioning in corners all over the place - incorrectly - and causing a big 'ol mess of things. So in 2013-2015 before Dick published the book the passing rate on the section part of the exam hovered right around 30%. Dick did a wonderful thing and offered up two texts one on Arkansas and one on Missouri. These texts have greatly improved the passing rate and has improved surveying procedures overall. Dick has assisted in writing the exam for MO, AR, and KS, as well as grading them over the years and clearly is an authority and subject matter expert.?ÿ
I don't think it is a conflict of interest at all, but a great deed of service to the profession. Why not offer a manual of instruction? The BLM does it.?ÿ?ÿ
We use his Missouri Book at the College where I teach in the boundary course and do our best to send young survey techs out the door with the correct knowledge on how to proportion correctly as well as prorate distances along the township and range lines, they know what a double corner is, a blank quarter corner, etc.?ÿ
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@stlsurveyor Well that answers the question I had about why there were two separate tests.?ÿ I think it was a good idea, and I failed Part 2 the first time.