I have been randomly selected for an audit of my continuing education hours. I have them so I don't anticipate any problems but you never know. Anyone out there also been lucky enough for this, and if so how did it go?
profsurveyor, post: 441781, member: 6159 wrote: I have been randomly selected for an audit of my continuing education hours. I have them so I don't anticipate any problems but you never know. Anyone out there also been lucky enough for this, and if so how did it go?
If it's Oklahoma I wouldn't worry too much about it. Hopefully you (or the folks you paid for the seminar) have documentation that you can submit to substantiate your numbers. From what I've seen, if a licensed surveyor (in good standing) falls a few hours short here or there they usually allow a grace period...for you to run our and spend some money on an online ripoff to come up with the proper number of hours.
And btw, I was audited once and found to have MORE hours than I had claimed. At that time they allowed "carry over" hours if you had more than required, but wouldn't change my number of claimed hours. I argued if they were going to audit my records and penalize me if I were short then it would only be fair to allow me to retain any "overages". It didn't fly.
Still pisses me off.
paden cash, post: 441783, member: 20 wrote: If it's Oklahoma I wouldn't worry too much about it. Hopefully you (or the folks you paid for the seminar) have documentation that you can submit to substantiate your numbers. From what I've seen, if a licensed surveyor (in good standing) falls a few hours short here or there they usually allow a grace period...for you to run our and spend some money on an online ripoff to come up with the proper number of hours.
And btw, I was audited once and found to have MORE hours than I had claimed. At that time they allowed "carry over" hours if you had more than required, but wouldn't change my number of claimed hours. I argued if they were going to audit my records and penalize me if I were short then it would only be fair to allow me to retain any "overages". It didn't fly.
Still pisses me off.
Yes it is my Oklahoma license. I attend the annual conference every year so I should just have to find my letters from the board that list my classes attended and hours earned. I must say it was some what nerve racking getting a letter from the board when I knew I didn't need to renew my license. I guess it could have been worse.
profsurveyor, post: 441781, member: 6159 wrote: I have been randomly selected for an audit of my continuing education hours. I have them so I don't anticipate any problems but you never know. Anyone out there also been lucky enough for this, and if so how did it go?
Yup, I won the MO Board lotto last year. I keep up with my PDU's by taking a Survey related online college course each semester and attending all the States that I am registered in yearly conferences. I also use the classes as a tax deduction since they are work related. I typically collect about 100 PDU's each year.
I turned in my report to the board immediately - apparently that doesn't happen too often as they responded, that they appreciate the thorough and speedy report.
N10,000, E7,000, Z100.00
PLS - IL, MO, AR, KS, MN, KY
Heck if you're current with your ceu's no worries. I'd just be glad it wasn't an IRS audit. 😉
profsurveyor, post: 441781, member: 6159 wrote: I have been randomly selected for an audit of my continuing education hours. I have them so I don't anticipate any problems but you never know. Anyone out there also been lucky enough for this, and if so how did it go?
Yes, twice in NC, no problems, just sent in the documentation and everything was good. We are required to get 15 hours every year, and our state surveyors society (NCSS) does a good gob sponsoring seminars for our PDH's each year. The board requires a photo ID and sign in sheet for each class which is forwarded to the board, we also get a printed and signed certificate with the required filing information on it. I have been licensed for 42 years so I guess for my license number group there are not a lot to draw from.
Ed
Was audited by Oregon. Had hours covered. Filled out form. Sent it in.
THE END.
I was audited by Texas engineering board TBPE last month. I track all my PDH hours on the NCEES site so the audit took me one minute. Log onto site, hit send to Texas, done!
I've been audited two years in a row in Texas and I am eligible to be audited every year. Supposedly random.
Andy Nold, post: 441942, member: 7 wrote: ..Supposedly random.
A relative term at times. 😉
I worked for a large construction outfit that implemented "random" drug testing on employees weekly for reduced insurance rates. When we first implemented the program the owner told me to "go get" a couple of guys and take them to the clinic for a "whiz quiz". I asked him how he wanted to apply the 'random' portion of the equation.
He told me to grab one hombre from the concrete crew and one brother from the grading crew..and he was serious. We eventually arrived at a "name from a hat" type of system. The owner never liked it because he had no control over whom was getting picked "at random"....:(
Andy Nold, post: 441942, member: 7 wrote: I've been audited two years in a row in Texas and I am eligible to be audited every year. Supposedly random.
Not sure how random it is, I was audited 5 times in 6 years, I was shocked I wasn't audited this year. Still easy to do fill out the form they mail you, put copies of the CEs, and mail it back to the board.
Scott Ellis, post: 441994, member: 7154 wrote: Still easy to do fill out the form they mail you, put copies of the CEs, and mail it back to the board.
I'm registered in 4 states, 3 of which require CEUs. Texas every year, OK & ND every other year. Texas requires ethics and rules for a part of the hours. I had 16 hours in ND last year, but not all of them were applicable to Texas, so I had to take additional classes to make 12. I'll probably have 24 CEUs by the end of this year.
Andy Nold, post: 441942, member: 7 wrote: I've been audited two years in a row in Texas and I am eligible to be audited every year. Supposedly random.
Andy,
I too was audited two years in a row. It wasn't a problem getting them the info, but I was curious and called them. I asked how was it that they supposedly audit 5% of the registrants and I had been selected two years in a row. I was told that it was just chance that it happened that way. Reading that you too were selected two years in a row makes one wonder.
I got audited by Missouri last year. This was the second time they audited me. They audit me once very 20 years. I waited until the last day and sent them my package next day. I wanted them to earn their keep. I probably had 120 hours and they would have accepted 90 or more of them. I use the shotgun approach and turn in everything I am forced to go to training wise. Next year I will turn in the trainings I had to go to concerning trans gender people and their treatment. The board my not think it is important but my boss does.
[USER=23]@Steve Corley[/USER]
Based on the length and robustness of your beard, I would have never guessed.:p:p:p
[USER=50]@Holy Cow[/USER]
Note that Steve does not mention being audited in Arkansas...that is because WE are EXEMPT from continuing education requirements ...
((Cuz we have grey beards and are 'special'...)
DDSM
Interesting distinction Dan, between land surveyors and engineers. The exemption from CE for surveyors is 60 years of age or 20 years of acceptable professional experience, but for engineers it's 65 years or 25 years of acceptable professional experience.
[SARCASM]Engineers never catch a break![/SARCASM]
Reading this thread makes me glad that CA doesn't require CE.
And thankfully neither does Colorado!
Wait....................... what??????????? CE has a cutoff based on age or experience??????????????? Where?