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jitterboogie
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I am plodding through a pile of plats in a sourthern state that boasts both swamps, space ships, and lots of other sportsmans like stuff and a small coastline.

The records just throw about "Following the NW1/4 OF SW1/4 LINE OF SECTION 27 764.34 FEET THENCE ALONG A LINE.....

Lots of deflection angles later and some bizarre mixtures of tangent and radial and just curves and not closing many. PArt of this is my lack of 30 years of experience, some is just bad QC on the plats when they were let out of the building.

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I wonder if anyone else around here would find it interesting to post up a difficult or even hilariously poorly drafted plat thats filed and without naming the surveyors or companies have a free for all and call it:

"Can you Close that?"?ÿ And just see just how bad it can be, again without divulging client confidentiality( public records, not ongoing nor commisioned current works ) and surveyor names( unless you particularily want to shine a light on the levle of practice....)

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Just curious as i bang my head a few more times......

 
Posted : February 3, 2021 9:00 pm
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We ran across one two weeks ago done by an engineering firm in the Gallatin valley that had 90' of error somewhere in the plat/legal. My boss and I (both licensed) spent 4 hours trying to find the error, with no luck. Luckily for us, we didn't have to retrace the entire 400+ acre parcel, just find 4 corners along the section line so that the rancher could make sure he was going to have enough room for a septic system. We did inform him of the massive error, so it may lead to more work in the future..... The plat was filed in 2001, and was signed off by an examining land surveyor, so there was really no valid excuse for the misclosure.

 
Posted : February 3, 2021 9:27 pm
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Came across some pretty awful descriptions when working in the Eagle Ford shale play around 2010 or so. Very rural tracts + metes & bounds state + descriptions regurgitating 1930s deeds = lots of headaches.

I really wish I had saved my favorite one. It incorporated feet, varas, and yards, all in the same description, although I thing there were only six or so calls. As far as I could tell, they took calls from the deeds of the adjoining properties, some of which incorporated the above measurement units, and threw them together.

That one did actually close within ten feet or so, which was pretty good for that part of the world.

 
Posted : February 3, 2021 9:45 pm
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Roll Tide! You are in God's Country!

 
Posted : February 4, 2021 6:14 am
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Map closure. Ya ever get two courses swapped? It'll close, but shape is wrong, and acreage is wrong...

It's harder to discover.

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Posted : February 4, 2021 7:26 am

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@jitterboogie

"I like to bang my head against the wall until it hurts because it feels really good when I stop." Shane Falco ?????ÿ

T. Nelson - SAM

 
Posted : February 4, 2021 8:01 am
jitterboogie
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@david3038

Run Forrest Run!!!!?ÿ

I hope these aren't your plats I'm suffering through.....

Jk.?ÿ ???? ???? ???? ?????ÿ

 
Posted : February 4, 2021 9:28 am
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@jitterboogie

Ha! Not me. I was born and raised in Alabama but have spent most of my adult life and all of my surveying life in Georgia?ÿ

 
Posted : February 5, 2021 9:12 am
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@david3038

So effectively, you escaped....

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Posted : February 5, 2021 9:23 am
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Posted by: @jitterboogie

post up a difficult or even hilariously poorly drafted plat

Staking the right-of-way lines and cul-de-sac bulbs in the plat of Deschutes River Tracts can be vexing:

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Dechutes River Tract detail

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Posted : February 5, 2021 11:26 am

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And then there's the decapitated cul-de-sac of Boulder Court in the plats of Boones Borough 1 and 2. Or is it a helicopter LZ??ÿ

Boulder Court  decapitated c d s

http://dial.deschutes.org/Real/InteractiveMap/167135

 
Posted : February 5, 2021 11:42 am
jitterboogie
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So all the corners are 90 right????

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Wow

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I feel your pain..

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Posted : February 5, 2021 12:53 pm
jitterboogie
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Ive been trying to find a way to work and afford living in Bend....

When it got expensive I kinda was discouraged....

Looks like all kinds of fun!!!!

 
Posted : February 5, 2021 12:54 pm
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My current hell.....

my hell

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Posted : February 9, 2021 10:59 pm
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Were there platting authorities that allowed these "cartoon" plats to be recorded and used to convey land??ÿ Amazing, what a disservice to the public.?ÿ There was one notorious Surveyor in Alaska who produced plats approaching those cartoons, and the Board chased him, and finally cancelled his license permanently while he was in jail (Police found a 1/2 lb. of cocaine in his computer).?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : February 10, 2021 11:17 am

jitterboogie
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And for everyone else reading....im really not trying to set this high bar for ridiculous plats...and no there is no associated curve table for WIW.

I particularly like the converging alley lines.

This is a part time GIS gig I decided to take and will back away from because I'm not getting paid enough for what i know how to do and I'm being told to do things I would never want to build into my work flow other than say " this plat cannot be accepted in its current format...."

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Standards were a lot looser than recently I suppose.....

 
Posted : February 10, 2021 12:46 pm
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Love the angles here.?ÿ You have to wonder who drafted it.

Angle swap
 
Posted : February 10, 2021 1:13 pm
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@northernsurveyor

I had the same question about platting authority and I looked up the year specific Oregon Statutes on Deschutes River Tract example and the County Surveyor most definitely had a statutory duty when he reviewed and signed the plat, but maybe that's all you got for 25$ in the day.?ÿ This crap has been going on for a very long time in our PROFESSIONAL WORLD.?ÿ It is to bad! Jp

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Posted : February 10, 2021 2:03 pm
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@northernsurveyor Think I know who you're talking about. I believe he worked out in the Bethel area. There was a standing joke with my mentor who had a table leg with a stamped cap laying around the office after running across a number of corners described as 'set table leg' attributed to him. A good many plats around here done by a very prolific surveyor now deceased make me cringe when I have anything to do with them. I knew his draftsman who described how his work flow involved a bottle of port beginning at lunch and got steadily higher in proof as the afternoon wore on. From what I know of him he was a WWII vet badly wounded and settled in this area following the war in the early days of the community. There was no platting authority at the time and just about any cartoon would pass for a plat.

Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : February 10, 2021 2:54 pm
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@jitterboogie
Lot lines all say NORTH, and the other lot lines all say S89?ø58'E.

Now to just resolve the ROW lines, can't be that bad... right??ÿ

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Posted : February 10, 2021 3:22 pm

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