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(@john-giles)
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I found a 36" Beech at one end of a 2500' line in a hollow. I then crossed over a steep ridge and On the other end I found a 1" iron pipe.

I found a 1/2" iron rod sticking out of the ground and leaning westerly in the root hole of a call for White oak about 1000' from the iron pipe and just off over the top of the ridge from the iron pipe. The root hole is 40" in diameter.

Problem is the 1/2" iron rod is off line. The line actually is 0.04' to the east of the iron rod.

How should I word this in my description?

I thought about not mentioning the iron rod at all since it isn't on line. Or I could mention it and state it is 0.04' off line.

Any help would be appreciated.

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 7:33 am
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Was there supposed to be a wink at the end?

Keith

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 7:44 am
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yeah, a rod in an old hole 0.04' off? what's your estimated error on the location? why aren't you celebrating?

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 7:46 am
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I'd say that at least two surveyors have done their work about as well as it is possible to do it. Then I'd employ the virtual hammer to put the monuments online.

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 7:49 am
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Iron Rod Might Be Off In Your State, The White Oak Is On

Both are on in PA, no need to mention the 0.04'.

Now can you independently prove the positional tolerance?

The iron rod is a reference monument to the position of the white oak. Within a rotting stump I estimate a 6' to 8' 1" bar minimum is required to be able to set it firmly. I am pretty sure once you set your prism pole on the iron rod you could scootch it over that 0.04' just breathing.

As to your question, if you are serious, "passing over a 1/2" iron rod within a rotten stump, referencing a former called for white oak".

BTW you best grab a sample of the rotten stump and send it away for analysis.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 8:05 am
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I'd say your sex life needs improvement.

🙂

(Snicker, 'n snort!)

Nate

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 8:38 am
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Starting at the center of a 3' wide tree?

20 different Surveyors would get 20 different positions for the center of the tree. You could calculate a line from the 1" pipe through the 1/2" rod (using it for line) and still be in the middle of the 3' wide tree.

I don't see a problem.

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 8:50 am
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NATE...

> I'd say your sex life needs improvement.
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> 🙂
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> (Snicker, 'n snort!)
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> Nate

Nate!! Not proper for this subject!!! :-@ o.O :-O

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 8:53 am
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You should pull them all out, start over with DGPS and send nasty letters to all involved!!

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 9:36 am
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NATE...

Sorry, Angel.

When you look at the content of the post, the OP is making a ridiculous construct, on purpose, thus my reply. However, please delete my comment, 'cause obviously, some may not see the satire in the OP. I was following the construct "Like for like, and kind for kind."

The original post was complaining that he did not know what to do with the 0.04'. I jumped to the end, to kid him back.

Just delete. Somebody else may not have seen what I saw either.

Nate

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 9:37 am
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I think you should locate the previous surveyor's grave, dig him up, and put his bones out in the sun, for doing such a sorry job!

No...

Maybe send his widow an hunnerd bucks, and tell her her husband did a good job!

NEVERMIND! I don't even know if he/she/it is dead yet!

OK, I'm getting REAL serious now. Tie flagging on everything. Then, go and have a coke and a smile!

Ain't it a nice feeling, when you find stuff in good order, like that?

I wish you would send me a can of the feel good. I'll send you a copy of my latest survey, along with the 1/16 corners I rejected.

Nate

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 9:49 am
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bump the 36" beech over about 0.08'....it will move the line enough to hit close to the iron rod.

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 10:05 am
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NATE...

Aw...come on Angel, that was downright funny.

(Or were you just joking around? I guess you could have deleted it if you thought it was that bad instead of quoting it.)

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 10:08 am
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Redo the entire traverse. You obviously did something wrong.

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 10:35 am
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> I found a 36" Beech at one end of a 2500' line in a hollow. I then crossed over a steep ridge and On the other end I found a 1" iron pipe.
>
> I found a 1/2" iron rod sticking out of the ground and leaning westerly in the root hole of a call for White oak about 1000' from the iron pipe and just off over the top of the ridge from the iron pipe. The root hole is 40" in diameter.
>
> Problem is the 1/2" iron rod is off line. The line actually is 0.04' to the east of the iron rod.
>
> How should I word this in my description?
>
> I thought about not mentioning the iron rod at all since it isn't on line. Or I could mention it and state it is 0.04' off line.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

Mis-state the size and species of the tree (be sure NOT to flag or hack it), don't mention the ridge, mis-state the size of the pipe (call it an iron or just a rod). Throw a 1" (one second) deflection in the line at the rod in the stump rot hole and call 'er good.... Hey... That's what most 80% of the other groups would do around here...

Carl

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 10:58 am
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:good: Don't forget to clean out the trash from the survey chariot too!

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 11:42 am
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NATE...

> Aw...come on Angel, that was downright funny.
>
> (Or were you just joking around? I guess you could have deleted it if you thought it was that bad instead of quoting it.)

Yeah, sorta... :-$

Had a few gripes about it but it's not THAT bad...but I was told I "favored Nate" because of his post. Sheesh!! :-/

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 1:28 pm
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I am so mesmerized by your totally awesome cool Avatar, that I will refrain from saying what I think of your question as it has already been said. 😀

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 1:44 pm
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😀

Yeah just messing around. Haven't seen much on 0.04' in a while.

I've only actually shot in one of the three monuments I mentioned so far. But will use the other two even if the one in the middle is out a couple feet. All are original corners in a HUGE tree line.

 
Posted : August 11, 2012 2:46 pm
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😉

 
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