ROW or not. Land owners are due surface damages.
I would not restake snyything without a police escort.
I'm going to agree with you. I'm not comfortable pushing this the way some people above me?ÿwant to. The reality from where I sit?ÿis that where I live darn near everyone is armed, probably not all that different than Texas. Some would argue that at an armed society is a polite society, but every time I turn on the news or pick up the paper I'm hearing about someone getting shot. Very impolite, but so is plowing a 4' trench through someone's lawn against their objections.?ÿWe would all like to think that will never happen to me, but I'm pragmatic?ÿenough to realize that I don't really?ÿknow what's going on in this guy's head and I'm not willing to risk my life or anyone else's to find out.?ÿPush comes to shove I'm going to set up the DC?ÿwith the?ÿcurve data and hand it to Army Ranger and say "If you want this staked again that bad ... Here you go. Have at it."
Yes I do believe that an armed society is a polite society and I do carry a gun most everywhere I am in public and likely to encounter other people. I carried my M9 today because where I was frequested by homeless people. However the largest part of conflict avoidance is to actually avoid it. Do not knowingly put yourself in harms way. That is a huge difference than finding yourself in the wrong place and having a weapon to protect yourself. This landowner made it clear so it would be extremely foolish to ignore that......gun or not avoid the site unless PoPo is there and likely a court order.
It's not my job.
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I like that idea, set up the TS on the dirt road, hand the Ranger some stakes, a hammer, and a radio, let him stake the RW...
Your brain is your best weapon. Think your way out of being the victim.
Got a problem?
In 2014 we were surveying the boundary of a fairly remote 150 acres when we were told by an adjoiner in no uncertain terms that we couldn't use the access road to the property. Long story short, the deputy told us to leave. I called the sheriff and was warned that we might be charged with trespassing. I told him the main concern was getting shot. His reply "I can't help you with that". We finished our work by crossing (with permission) a neighbor's field and I never heard the outcome. I've had to call for police escorts a few times, but that was the first time I was denied any type of help.
An armed society is a polite society? In case you haven't heard, there's not a lot of "polite" out there these days.
I've had to call for the Sheriff/police a few times when things got ugly, and it does beat a hole in one's shirt, or in one case, the nagging suspicion that I'd end up in his basement hanging upside down, gutted out. Creepy, that one.
I am appalled though, that law enfocement wouldn't show up for you. If you're working for a legitimate company with a legal right to be there, go up your chain of command until the Sheriff will listen and actually help. Their job is to keep the peace, not to merely collect bodies for the coroner.?ÿ
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An armed society is a polite society? In case you haven't heard, there's not a lot of "polite" out there these days.
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Yep, disagree all you want that's fine, but if you are a bad guy and you know that I am armed and have the means and will to defend myself then you are less likely to try to do me harm.
Just look at any area where the citizens means to defend themselves has been restricted and you will see massive crime where the good law abiding people are routinely victimized by the criminals who do not abide by laws.?ÿ
And Incidentally as I live in a state that does not have a right to trespass if a cop was called I would likely be told to leave and not return unless I wanted to have additional holes in me. I do not challenge landowners who do not want me there and I take their threats seriously.
An armed society is a polite society? In case you haven't heard, there's not a lot of "polite" out there these days.
I've had to call for the Sheriff/police a few times when things got ugly, and it does beat a hole in one's shirt, or in one case, the nagging suspicion that I'd end up in his basement hanging upside down, gutted out. Creepy, that one.
I am appalled though, that law enfocement wouldn't show up for you. If you're working for a legitimate company with a legal right to be there, go up your chain of command until the Sheriff will listen and actually help. Their job is to keep the peace, not to merely collect bodies for the coroner.?ÿ
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Reality is our State Troopers are spread ridiculously thin and they won't respond to threats, only actual assaults and?ÿI have been physically assaulted on the job and had I been carrying at the time I would have shot the individual and there is no telling how that would have played out. As it was I walked away bruised and shaken, but no one died.?ÿ Lot of drug related thefts going on and people are jumpy.?ÿWhether someone chooses to carry or not is none of?ÿmy business, but while working in urban areas I generally avoid it as statistically the bad guy will have the drop on?ÿme and I will no doubt be out gunned. If someone is going to shoot me, it's going to be an unarmed surveyor, in the back, while running screaming like a little girl. I rely on my wits and instincts to avoid trouble, and that is exactly what I will do here. Maybe they can find an ex-Army Ranger surveyor to replace me.
An armed society is a polite society? In case you haven't heard, there's not a lot of "polite" out there these days.
Yep, disagree all you want that's fine, but if you are a bad guy and you know that I am armed and have the means and will to defend myself then you are less likely to try to do me harm.
Just look at any area where the citizens means to defend themselves has been restricted and you will see massive crime where the good law abiding people are routinely victimized by the criminals who do not abide by laws.?ÿ
And Incidentally as I live in a state that does not have a right to trespass if a cop was called I would likely be told to leave and not return unless I wanted to have additional holes in me. I do not challenge landowners who do not want me there and I take their threats seriously.
Regardless, don't ever think that "just" being armed gives you much security. You will still be sized up and likely not even know it.
My old karate instructor collects more black belts than I do ticks, and although he faced down 5 guys outside his studio in the Liberty City Miami neighborhood with a only a baseball bat, he left me with this advice: "A fight is an uncontrolled situation, and no matter how good you are, you can always lose teeth - and they don't grow back." He was sized up, and they chose (wisely) not to try him out.
Jack that up a few exponents when guns are involved, and you begin to see the difficulty. Police train all the time, and they get shot and killed.
I am sorry that you don't have a right to trespass law. That in itself won't save you much except time and aggravation, but that's something.
Stay safe.
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