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nate-the-surveyor
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I cannot imagine a legitimate use for these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-YELLOW-SURVEYORS-CAPS-SURVEY-MARKER-SURVEYING-BOUNDARY-PROPERTY-LINE-/193473671219?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286

It seems they could be used by one landowner, against another, bluffing.

What if Tom Landowner went and surveyed his land, capped 'em with these, but did not drive all the rebar deep. But some were deep. So, some got mangled, (by mowers, and sunlight) and some did not. And, finally, the guy who sets them passes away.?ÿ

Now, some surveyor has to sort out the mess.

I know camudgeons who would put these caps on old legitimate rebar, as well as on NEW landowner set ones.

Makes me wonder.

Nate


 
Posted : June 6, 2021 6:55 am
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I could use a handful of them at the moment for construction layout, I have used similar in the past for traverse points.

?ÿ

Whatever you print on them or do not print on them there will always be someone ready to build a fence to it.


 
Posted : June 6, 2021 8:25 am
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I would hate to encounter pincushions with these mixed in. What if they represent the best measurement?

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Posted : June 6, 2021 8:30 am
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Nate- the seller is just an honest bidƒ??nessman trying to fill a nicheƒ??. If heƒ??s sold 39 already, heƒ??s 3x his money. ?ÿWho is to say itƒ??s not one for the cap companies or one of their employees?


 
Posted : June 6, 2021 8:57 am
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Not all states require i.d. on corner monuments.

They could be used for control points.

?ÿ

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Posted : June 6, 2021 9:15 am

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Posted by: @rundatline

I think a control point, if capped?ÿ should more clearly indicate it is not a property corner. Survey marker is too generic and easily misinterpreted as a corner. Reference point? Control point?


 
Posted : June 6, 2021 10:46 am
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Posted by: @bill93

I think a control point, if capped?ÿ should more clearly indicate it is not a property corner. Survey marker is too generic and easily misinterpreted as a corner. Reference point? Control point?

Yes, and they should not be placed near anything which might be misconstrued as a property corner. ?ÿSeems so obvious, that I wish I did not have to state this. ?ÿBut, alas, I am preaching to the choir today.


 
Posted : June 6, 2021 11:13 am
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I use the plain jane ones for control points on construction projects.?ÿ I never place them near the power poles that every property owner knows is on the PL.

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Posted : June 6, 2021 11:40 am
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They are prohibited as property monuments here.

I wouldn't use them as control if I wanted them to last very long, kinda like signing a plat with disappearing ink.

Every now and then I will come across one from the bad old days when they were allowed and it's still legible.

But that's very rare, usually there is a melted plastic mess if you're lucky or some bits and pieces of yellow plastic near the rebar.

The buried ones have the best chance of surviving but if they get dug up a few times that ruins them too.?ÿ


 
Posted : June 6, 2021 11:47 am
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I can't see that a rebar with a blank or generic messaged cap is any different, from a evidence perspective, from an uncapped rebar. All capped irons become uncapped irons in time. As a matter of fact, if your state requires that the cap be identifiable,?ÿ a blank or generic cap tells you that it is not a registrants cap - and not just an iron which has lost it's cap - so that is really a plus!?ÿ ?ÿ


 
Posted : June 6, 2021 3:31 pm