We have been asked to provide a quote to update this type of map following the FAA SOP. The Airport appears to be leasing new ground for future improvements. My question is per the FAA guidelines do you think a boundary survey of each parcel that this lease area affects is required to update this type of map and write a lease agreement. The lease area affects 4 parcels of ground but only portions of this ground. My thoughts were to accurately establish all of the controlling lines that the lease will affect and prepare the lease agreement from that information. Then update the Exhibit A per that. Has anyone ever surveyed for one of these and what are your thoughts on how the FAA guidelines for Exhibit A should be applied here?
Lease Area below around Future Approach
Parcels Affected Below in different colors
It's been ten years since I did any AP/ FAA work, things may have changed. All my work was for the FAA Regional Office in Ft. Worth, TX. The folks reviewing the work were far less stringent than specs would indicate.
I also might suggest the K.I.S.S. approach. Too much info can cause things to get screwy down there. You're approach sounds adequate, but with a federal agency the contrary can always be shown.
I am working on one now. We are doing a true boundary survey of our airport. It is a monumental task to say the least, along with the GIS attributes and everything.
Jimmy Cleveland, post: 393118, member: 91 wrote: I am working on one now. We are doing a true boundary survey of our airport. It is a monumental task to say the least, along with the GIS attributes and everything.
These are some parcels away from the main airport that they want to lease ground on for an Avigation Easement I believe. Do you think that would require boundary surveys to prepare the lease documents and update the Exhibit "A". I gave them a quote to do boundaries and update Exhibit "A" and a different quote to tie down controlling lines needed to write the Lease Agreements and update the Exhibit "A". The existing Exhibit "A" doesn't look like a boundary survey and isn't signed and sealed. It looks more like some GIS product other than bearings and distances on parcels.
The Exhibit A does not have to be signed and sealed as it is typically a planning document. However, the is usually an actual boundary survey(s) for the Airport property(ies).
Will the leased area or avigation easement be acquired by an FAA grant in the near future (a listed ACIP project)? If so, you may need to do an actual survey as the FAA would need the appraiser evaluations of the specific area before any grant funding was given to the airport. Hopefully the Airport knows this and doesn't take a grant to purchase the land rights, but doesn't request enough. Seen it happen and the Airport will then have to shell out the cash from their own pocket to finish the grant. Typically the grant covers 90%, and the Airport the other 10%. Sometimes, state aeronautics will cover a portion too.
If the Airport plans to have the FAA or themselves purchase the lease/avigation easement years down the road (typically listed as ultimate) and wants to show it as part of the ALP, then it is usually a planning drawing with optimal dimension.
The things with an ALP is the Airport cannot eventually do that improvement if it is not shown, regardless of the need. Usually, the FAA funds project listed in order of importance: Airspace (avigation easement, obstruction studies, obstruction removals, etc...), Runways (RSA, ROFA, pavement, lighting, signs, etc...), Taxiways and so on. So if the runway extension is listed as an ACIP, the purchase of the lease should be included in that Grant.
The requirements will vary based on the airport's FSDO manager. ALP's are colorful GIS planning docs. We call them our wish list. As the money, tenant, or need to select a project from the ALP and move forward with it arises, only then does it get "real".
That said some engineers convince the FSDO that the boundary survey is needed even for GIS level planning docs.
It's is the FAA's money but they give discretion to the airport and engineer on how to spend it. If the airport board sees a value in the boundary and it is supported by their engineer of record...the FAA will pay for it.
CB
Thanks for all the help. This was a wish list project as Mister Chopping Broccoli eluded to. Much of what was passed on helped me with the conversation with the client.
