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brad-ott
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Dear Big City Person,

I am sorry that I missed both of your calls today. Please e-mail the details, then I will be able to send you a written proposal with estimated cost and timeframe to provide a current survey.

Thanks, Brad

Good Morning,

Attached please find surveys in connection with this transaction that I need a QUOTE ONLY on for now to update.

I will provide client with quote and have you provide a proposal once they decide to move forward. I do not have any Table A requirements so if you could please provide me with your typical requirements covered I will pass over to them to see if they require anything further.

Thank you, Big City Person

Dear Big City Person,

Is this only for the 1.5 acres‰Ûª Out Lot?

Thanks, Brad

Good Afternoon,

I don‰Ûªt have my commitment back yet but attached is the prior marked up report for property being insured. Hope this helps.

Thank you, Big City Person

Dear Big City Person,

You sent an attachment for Rhode Island not Indiana‰Û?

Thanks, Brad

Good Afternoon,

Sorry for delay, I am working remotely from home. Please see attached.

Thank you, Big City Person

Dear Big City Person,

Okay, ten four, so this is for the 43 acres, right?

Thanks, Brad

Dear Brad,

I actually do not know the actual acreage. I will forward you the commitment once received.

We are only looking for a Quote for now.

Much appreciated.

Thank you, Big City Person

Crickets chirping as surveyor slowly backs away from the e-mail machine terminal‰Û?

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 6:45 am
stephen-ward
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[SARCASM]Come on man, quit asking so many questions and being difficult......Just give me a number.[/SARCASM]

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 7:07 am
dave-karoly
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$1,496,654.37 plus tax and shipping.

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 7:09 am
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Just tell the guy that you're not going to give any sort of proposal until he tells you exactly what he wants surveyed.

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 7:13 am
dave-karoly
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Tommy Young, post: 417458, member: 703 wrote: Just tell the guy that you're not going to give any sort of proposal until he tells you exactly what he wants surveyed.

The guy wants a quote, give him a quote: "We go to gain a little ground which hath in it little profit."

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 7:16 am

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That was the official definition of " Beating around the bush".

Sounds like a T & M job.

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 7:37 am
thebionicman
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Dave Karoly, post: 417457, member: 94 wrote: $1,496,654.37 plus tax and shipping.

I use a similar number all the time. You only haveto sell one...

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 8:50 am
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$0.10 for the 1st Sq ft~ doubled for every sq ft thereafter.

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 9:02 am
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My ALTA story for the day is a little different but still left me scratching my head. Client had us do three ALTAs on adjoining lots, three different owners, with the plan to do one after they were consolidated and then after construction was done. We prepared the plan to consolidate the lots and the municipality approved it based the clients plan to purchase the lots. On the last day the plan was able to be recorded before it became null and void, they recorded it without having bought the property. Now they want the ALTA of the consolidated lot even though no deeds were transferred yet.

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 9:24 am
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[USER=9658]@PA PLS[/USER]

It may be possible that they bought out the company thru a Cooperate merger that included a statement including certain properties.
Many of those documents do not find their way into deed records.
Ask them for a copy of their proof of ownership and let them know that your new paperwork must include that information.
:8ball:

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 10:12 am

thebionicman
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PA PLS, post: 417479, member: 9658 wrote: My ALTA story for the day is a little different but still left me scratching my head. Client had us do three ALTAs on adjoining lots, three different owners, with the plan to do one after they were consolidated and then after construction was done. We prepared the plan to consolidate the lots and the municipality approved it based the clients plan to purchase the lots. On the last day the plan was able to be recorded before it became null and void, they recorded it without having bought the property. Now they want the ALTA of the consolidated lot even though no deeds were transferred yet.

There are tons of twists and turns possible on this one. Around here applicants must submit an affidavit of legal interest to amend real property configurations. If the Deed did not have an instrument number superior to the consolidation the entire process would blow up in the owners face. It could go so far as criminal charges for the false affidavit.

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 10:21 am
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The three landowners were three separate individuals. Everything was prepared,approved and whatnot with the understanding our client would be purchasing the 3 separate lots before the plan was recorded. As it stands today, there is recorded plan, stating our client as the owner of the property, even though no deeds granting them ownership have been recorded. They expect to close the sale of the properties mid-May.

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 10:27 am
stephen-ward
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PA PLS, post: 417494, member: 9658 wrote: The three landowners were three separate individuals. Everything was prepared,approved and whatnot with the understanding our client would be purchasing the 3 separate lots before the plan was recorded. As it stands today, there is recorded plan, stating our client as the owner of the property, even though no deeds granting them ownership have been recorded. They expect to close the sale of the properties mid-May.

Here we would've listed the current owners on the plat with current deed references and recorded it. It would've created a joint ownership situation with the newly combined lot, but that's better than listing an owner that currently has no dog in the fight. Title folks are probably upset no matter which way it gets done.

Edit: This is also why all copies of plats that I release prior to recording have "For Review Only, Not for Recording" watermarked over my seal and often watermarked diagonally across the entire drawing to prevent recording by anyone other than me. Not 100% foolproof, but I could prove that someone went to a lot of trouble to shoot themselves in the foot if anyone tried to claim that the premature recording was my fault.

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 10:47 am
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Dave Karoly, post: 417457, member: 94 wrote: $1,496,654.37 plus tax and shipping.

Do not forget the "handling fees"

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 3:33 pm
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I won't provide a quote without a Title.

 
Posted : March 8, 2017 8:35 pm

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Rankin_File, post: 417475, member: 101 wrote: $0.10 for the 1st Sq ft~ doubled for every sq ft thereafter.

I'm gonna cut your price by 1/2 on the first 20 square feet.

 
Posted : March 12, 2017 6:09 am
brad-ott
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After leaving an abrasive and ignorant voice mail, the gal from New York City admitted to me during a telephone conversation that, "I am not really savvy with all this stuff."

 
Posted : March 12, 2017 9:17 am