> Would you release the file without an update, how would you price that?
NO! Why do you want to do that? Do you just have a need to be loved?
Tomorrow you call your new client and explain how you thought you had the file. On further review you find that the drawing file was lost in a hard drive failure back in 2007. Sorry, you say, you learned a lesson about file backups. Luckily, you do still have most of the raw data and can recreate the mapping for much less than a full resurvey.
> (I would want a signed ackknowledgement, that the data is outdated and may have been
> changed or altered)
That just won't do you a lot of good. You are liable to the person who paid for the original survey and to those who you should have known that the paying client would have distributed it to. That probably doesn't extend to subsequent owners years down the line. Mealymouthed disclaimers aren't very effective in a court of law. But reissuing an old survey will reset the liability clock. You deserve to be paid for that.
the guy i worked for also gave away paper copies (unstamped) to anyone who asked for free unless there was a possible conflict of interest. But i'd get rid of anything in the cad file but the printed stuff.
Providing An AutoCAD File Is A Separate Liability...
Does the insurance company carry the old policy over to the new owner for free
just because the old owner's policy is only 3 months old?
Providing An AutoCAD File Is A Separate Liability...
Just read this:
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lowballers, idiots, and business men
With all the belly aching that goes on about lowballers... And right here among us we have several that are advocating that you offer you services free of charge?????? If you were doing this survey for $2000 you would be crucified, but FREE.... Free is okay.
If you offer this for free you just earned a client that is going to push you around because they know they can. You will be doing freebies all the time, this is the beginning of the end for you. Next thing you know they will want a note changed, they will want you to come back and re-locate pins... All for free, and why not??? You gave them the survey for free? Why not get the world for free?? The bigger this company is the less they care about you. You give it to them for free and you will regret it. You can say I told you so.
BTW... To all you freebie surveyors out there, if you are not part of the solution then....
lowballers, idiots, and business men
Mr Cushion, I started to comment on how neatly you tied SOPA/PIPA into the thread and your valid points. Then I got tied up on the phone, and now its gone. Clever seque'
This thread has certainly brought out differing ideas, that is for sure. I'm of the camp that would charge something for any files to 3rd parties. But first I'd want to be on board with the new client for more work. Otherwise I may find myself on vacation and unavailable for quite some time. They'd figure out something as I would be very reluctant to make their attempt at saving money to be my problem.
I have in the past provided a pdf of the map, and the coordinate file but not the CAD file. I've also provided just the CAD plot file, with all the data removed. But Plan A is to always try and get myself involved with the new project.
If it was the new surveyor who was already under contract that contacted me first, I would be much more cooperative. Especially for all control & data files.
I guess I'm interpreting your question different than everyone else.
What I hear you asking is if you should provide the electronic file of a survey prepared as an as-built and boundary; for subsequent use by others 8 years down the road for engineering design purposes.
I would tell them I need to start from scratch in order to perform a survey that would meet their needs. I probably could use some of the previous work, but I wouldn't trust much of it and none of it without remeasurement and analysis.
This has nothing to do with recording. I would stand by my old work for boundary. And location of structures at that time to the needed accuracy and precision for that use.
But I would demand to know what they proposed to do so that I could perform a survey that meets their new, different and current needs. Problems that arise from any survey inconsistencies with the new and different needs of the clients will be on your shoulders and you can not contract yourself out of this type of liability. No fancy notes will suffice. Provide that drawing and you are liable for any damages under a malpractice claim because you have been informed of the new and different use "expanding" and you know things could have changed dramatically over the course of 8 years.
I would not be surprised if providing the file would also violate some State board rules against professional misconduct.
It's nice to be nice, but it does not help anyone to give them questionable information even if they think it helps them at the time.
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> Mr Cushion, I started to comment on how neatly you tied SOPA/PIPA into the thread and your valid points. Then I got tied up on the phone, and now its gone. Clever seque'
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Thanks.... funny how the powers that be see it fit to censor their board(even though it is free from profanity, censorship in it self), but then advocate no censorship on the web with their 10 second propaganda about SOPA/PIPPA the other day??? I guess it was just the cool thing to do if you run a message board?
... I will be pro-life right after this abortion.
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> > Mr Cushion, I started to comment on how neatly you tied SOPA/PIPA into the thread and your valid points. Then I got tied up on the phone, and now its gone. Clever seque'
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> Thanks.... funny how the powers that be see it fit to censor their board(even though it is free from profanity, censorship in it self), but then advocate no censorship on the web with their 10 second propaganda about SOPA/PIPPA the other day??? I guess it was just the cool thing to do if you run a message board?
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> ... I will be pro-life right after this abortion.
Apples to Oranges, sir.
Them running their own website as they see fit doesn't preclude them from joining in a protest against a regulating body running the entire internet, WHICH THEY DO NOT OWN, in a manner befitting their interests.
Ya dig?
Stephen
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I understand what you are saying... Prolife abortions fit the meter.
Right to bear arms, but not theae ones or those ones. You dig?
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Huh? Do what?
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