And in the Realtor's defense; if they give advice like this, and you don't take it, and it comes back to bite you; they can say, "I told you so"
Yeah, but that's no different than what any other client could do.
Sounds to me like this realtor is just trying to boss people around.
that's no different than what any other client could do.
That's my point...
Like the OP said, everyone is working with a high level of CYA. Everyone should; no offence.
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Why is the Realtor worrying about who is helping, working for or anything to do with your business.
I give some clients an offer of helping me do their survey and pay them $100 per day or take that off their invoice amount for their efforts.
You are the one signing the papers and making all the decisions about the survey and are in total charge of what happens.
Most Realtors have a surveyor on consignment for a set fee, even though they will never admit to it, and that is who they want to survey for them.
I have more than one client that makes out his own deeds when he buys and sells land. A deed is a form and anyone can fill one out and get the proper signatures on it and have it notarized.
I have surveyed every property that I've ever purchased and sold and while a few have had their varied opinion about it, it was not a problem and they accepted my survey rather than spend the money to hire another surveyor, Realtors included.
Why is the Realtor worrying
Because if it throws up a red flag; there's a good chance they won't get paid...
@dougie Most often the Realtor is working for the seller and has a vested interest in controlling who comes and goes from the property. The reasons for this could be varied and debateable. There are numerous situations where we as surveyors can become conflicted in a real estate transaction. I would be hard pressed to divulge information that the owner doesn't want out there if I am working for them; but if the (potential) buyer is on the crew, it could smell like old fish to me. Especially if the owners representative (the realtor) says no. I would find something else for the helper to do that day.
Two thoughts
1. According to a recent ethics class taught by Milton Denny, surveying your own property or for family is fine.
2. I have surveyed property for my myself and immediate family members and there was no issues with the underwriters who I asked in advance.
I would find something else for the helper to do that day.?ÿ
Like I said:
Everyone is working with a high level of CYA. Everyone should...
@daniel-ralph, This may seem unusual, but the seller, the seller's agent and the seller's attorney are all willing to hire to hire us knowing that my assistant is a potential buyer. It is, rather, the buyer's (my assistant) agent that sent a message that my assistant should not be involved in the survey. I am trying to determine the reason for the agent's concern. Meanwhile the seller would like to proceed. They seller is requesting the survey and so, would be my client. Perhaps my assistant's agent has another surveyor on the line. Also, this project will take much longer than one day.
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@rankin_file, My assistant has worked with me for two years. She reminded me that today is our anniversary. Without her I am not willing to continue the project. It's not like I can just pick another assistant for this project that has the same qualifications.
@not-my-real-name write your alternate proposal so you pay her to sit idle (she shouldn??t have to burn leave or LWOP because of a client request) and you do it all solo. Show that number to the realtor?ÿ
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@rankin_file, That sounds good. I had to Google LWOP though. 🙂
By law, the closing agent must pay every invoice presented and every recorded lien against the property or the transaction will probably be in trouble of being invalid, their license could be taken and they would probably be charged with theft of services.
If you are talking about the Realtor not getting paid, who cares, lol
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@not-my-real-name Ooohhhh, please post up some of those hilarious deeds for us all to see!
There's something they don't want her to see.?ÿ
Hm?
A Realtor has a definite interest in the parcel, maybe the Realtor should not be involved with who does the survey. Generally it is up to the seller or the buyer.
Just thinking.
Paul in PA
Oh pffft, if it's the assistant's agent then tell her to hire a new agent. I'm kinda surprised a realtor would have the balls to tell their own client to turn down work.
If you are talking about the Realtor not getting paid, who cares, lol
That's what I'm talkin bout
This is definitely not the forum to post a realtors opinion on and not expect some funny comments.?ÿ
i recently put my house up for sale and bought a lot to build on, while talking with my mortgage broker about closing costs I mentioned that I wont let them hire it out and have me pay for it since I have one of those pretty little round stamps. He felt like it was a conflict of interest on my own property. I said ok fine, but I will dictate who you use. 😉
@jon-collins I agree. All the comments here are great and funny. I think the agents are realizing how absurd it was. Especially since it is now delaying the start of the survey. They will need to acknowledge the participation of my assistant in the survey and the fact that she does not make a determination of the boundary. But, they should have known that to begin with since my assistant is not a licensed surveyor.
