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CFEDS- now allowing non-licensed individuals into program

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(@james-fleming)
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Sure that says where the generated funds are supposed to go, but doesn't give an inkling how much the fund is or how the money is being utilized. Does anyone know out there? I would like to see some accountability wouldn't you?

Shouldn't ACSM have kept the prices low to support the profession? No wonder they are gone. I don't need a foundation to help me run my business, do you?

Now that ACSM is kaput, does this agreement automatically transfer to NSPS?

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 5:31 am
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Our profession has some really weak representation.....ACSM, etc.

What we need is much better representation. It is up to us to do something about it. If we just sit, we will get overrun by the GIS professionals so that their work can be used in lieu of surveys. Drones are being pursued by GIS, and that technology is going to be restricted by FAA, and if we don't watch it GIS will take that technology away from us by making the restriction to use it something that most land surveyors cannot achieve without unnecessary effort.

We are REALLY LAGGING in the new technology arena. Construction contractors probably buy more GPS than we do. Same will be true for all the new technology--Construction and GIS will rule.

Where are you NSPS? NSPE? ACSM? We need a real leader to represent us.

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 5:34 am
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> Now that ACSM is kaput, does this agreement automatically transfer to NSPS?

I have a better shot at keeping current on Balkan politics than I do of following the ACSM/NSPS saga.

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 5:43 am
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> I have a better shot at keeping current on Balkan politics than I do of following the ACSM/NSPS saga.

[sarcasm]there's a font for that...[/sarcasm]

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 5:52 am
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"This can be done much cheaper overseas."

Surely you jest!

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 5:55 am
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I have started placing "Printed in the United States of America" in my books on the copyright page. Here is one example of an overseas printer with direct connections to the United States. http://www.diyausa.com/commercial_printing_company.html

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 7:20 am
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Don't you think it would be inappropriate for a U..S Government publication to be printed overseas?

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 8:58 am
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I went to a course put on by the BLM back in 1993 on Cadastral surveying. It was prior to coming up with the CFEDS. I thought it was an excellent program, and in my mind was a course that I should have had before I ever became licensed. (I would take the CFEDS program if I could afford it accordingly.)

In my mind, assuming that the CFEDS is the same course only with testing and probably a bit more significant, I would think it an excellent course to take prior to becoming licensed.

For whatever that's worth.

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 11:30 am
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Well now, what a bunch of malarky! I"m a colonial surveyor (4 states) and CFEds #1499. I took the course and passed the exam on my first seating, wheww, and it wasn't easy.

What it was is eye opening, very informative and a challenge to learn. I am glad that I did it even though I haven't made a nickle out of it yet. I was going to pursue the continuing Ed if I ever got a job witin the two years, but alas, not yet. I"m still good until june however!

I have actually purchased the '09' manual. A 'beerlegger' (who shall remain nameless, thanks #36793) purchased one at a discount at their annual convention. I'm going to say it was $60 but don't hold me to that!

I enjoy reading it from time to time. I really learned to look at some things differently, in particular how I think about a monument as either found, lost, or obiltirated.

If the CFedS is encourgaing potential licenses to become CFedS, what is wrong with that? At lesat they have to obtain a state license for the CFedS to become active.

As for representation for the Profession at the National level, GET INVOLVED! DO SOMETHING BESIDES COMPLAIN!

Don

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 11:56 am
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Well, I think I will take the course. I am a individual with a LSIT but primarily a background in construction so it seems like a reasonable way to fortify my understanding of cadastral surveying.

I wonder if having taken the course would look favorable on the board approving a person sitting for the PLS exam?

The expense of the course at $1200 is significant but when compared with the cost of training elsewhere does not seem astronomical.

I can relate to the objections of cost on principal to some extent, but if a person wants to really get offended at expenses involved in education there are really much bigger fish to fry.

A look at vocational schools which receive public funds and offer substandard education unveils a massive fraud against the students and public which make offense at a governmental agency pulling a bit of profit on a book quite laughable.

That said I do believe that the manual should be hosted online free of charge.

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 11:56 am
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PLSSF Annual Revenue and Expenses for 2010:
Total revenue: $244,213
Total expenses: $25,774

According to: http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/01-0966084/public-land-survey-system-foundation.aspx#idReportSectionForms990Quick

2011 IRS-990 EZ also available on Guidestar website for PLSSF.

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 12:43 pm
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NSPS vs BLM

Is there some connection that I am missing here? The information you posted points to NSPS, while the Cfed program is the BLM.

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 2:31 pm
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They are gonna need all those CFEDS to survey the large chunks of PLSSia they plan to sell to China to buy back our debt.

How is the title to PLSSia different from title to the colonial states, and who are the entities holding those titles?

 
Posted : February 25, 2013 7:38 pm
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