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(@wolfcreek)
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Hi all, I've been reading post here for several months and finally decided to join. I will hopefully be a surveyor in training by the end of the year. I'm going to try to upload a newspaper article about a family member. I've been doing some genealogical research recently and came across this. It happened in 1919.

Being my first post, hope this works. I haven't been able to find the results of the grand jury.

 
Posted : May 4, 2011 5:58 pm
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I always say it's not bad till the guns come out. But rocks and sticks could be equally bad (obviously)

 
Posted : May 4, 2011 6:01 pm
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From the posting, I cannot determine if this was in Kentucky or West Virginia. Am I close?

All of the Altizers I knew, including the surveyor, originated in one or the other.

 
Posted : May 4, 2011 6:08 pm
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> From the posting, I cannot determine if this was in Kentucky or West Virginia. Am I close?
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> All of the Altizers I knew, including the surveyor, originated in one or the other.

We have quite a few Altizers around here (in southwest Virginia). But, I've never heard of Bear Wallow.

 
Posted : May 4, 2011 6:19 pm
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"Being my first post, hope this works."

Yes, it worked and a fine introduction in my humble opinion!

CV

 
Posted : May 4, 2011 6:45 pm
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I found this entry, chock full of SPARKS and ALTIZER and BEAR WALLOW on the web. It looks like it is in Virginia. Nancy Altizer died at Bear Wallow Mountain in Buchanan County and Tom W. Sparks died in Tazewell County. Maybe the Wallow is in one county and the mountain named after the Wallow in the other?

From http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=3152932&id=I0736

>123. Thomas William SPARKS (Joseph B SPARKS, Jonathan SPARKS, Solomon SPARKS, Solomon SPARKS, Rachel (Mary Unknown) SAMPLE) was born 11 APR 1860 in Baptist Valley, Tazewell Co VA, and died 28 MAR 1919 in Tazewell Co VA.

>He married Nancy Jane ALTIZER 18 SEP 1879 in Tazewell Co VA, daughter of Louisa HARMAN. She was born 24 SEP 1863 in Dividing Ridge, Tazewell Co VA, and died 24 DEC 1912 in Bear Wallow Mt, Buchanan Co VA.

>He married Margeret L UNDERWOOD 27 MAY 1913. She was born 12 APR 1876 in Buchanan Co VA, and died 11 FEB 1933 in probably Minden, Fayette Co WV. She was buried 13 FEB 1933 in High Lawn Memorial Park, Oak Hill, Fayette Co WV.

Interesting story. I'd like to find out what happened.

 
Posted : May 4, 2011 6:49 pm
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I have worked in Tazewell County. Burkes Garden area. I don't remember a Bear Wallow Mountain but that was 31 years ago and I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday. I do remember how absolutely beautiful those mountains were.

James

 
Posted : May 4, 2011 7:19 pm
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Take a stick to a rock fight. Now substitute knife for stick and gun for rock.

 
Posted : May 4, 2011 7:25 pm
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But I was close!

Hey, it was nearly forty years ago.

I worked in western Virgina back then and my favorite town was Pound, after Blacksburg, where my late uncle was a professor at Tech. Beautiful country.

You are lucky to live there.

 
Posted : May 4, 2011 8:22 pm
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That's why we mark the lines when we do a survey.

 
Posted : May 5, 2011 3:10 am
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Well I'll be darned.

Sticks and stones will break your bones.

:coffee:

 
Posted : May 5, 2011 3:18 am
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> I have worked in Tazewell County. Burkes Garden area. I don't remember a Bear Wallow Mountain but that was 31 years ago and I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday. I do remember how absolutely beautiful those mountains were.
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> James

I've never even been to Burke's Garden... and it's what... and hour and a half from here... it's on my list.

I do like it here. 😀

 
Posted : May 5, 2011 3:48 am
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> But I was close!
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> Hey, it was nearly forty years ago.
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> I worked in western Virgina back then and my favorite town was Pound, after Blacksburg, where my late uncle was a professor at Tech. Beautiful country.
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> You are lucky to live there.

Thanks Carl Z.,

I think Dad had to spend some time in Pound, or near there, for his summer mine surveying classes back in the 50's. My Dad's family is from here in Montgomery County, so that's why we came back. I was born in Marietta, OH, and graduated H.S. in Bridgeport, WV. Dad always wanted to return, and when he retired, he did. He really loved it here.

Dad was licensed as a PS and PE in Ohio in the 70's and worked for River Gas out of Marietta, but his gas lease plats are all over southeast Ohio. Ever seen one?

Carl

 
Posted : May 5, 2011 3:52 am
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Wow, Tough Family!

I wonder what your family reunions are like.

Great 1st post. Good luck on the LSIT. Actually, luck has little to do with it. Study well and tear it up.

 
Posted : May 5, 2011 9:17 am
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Well...that's one way to resolve a boundary dispute without paying for a survey. (Of course, it did cost more than an "arm and a leg", and there're still no marks on the ground.

Sorry for the bad jokes. Good first post.

Tom

 
Posted : May 5, 2011 9:38 am
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> Well I'll be darned.
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> Sticks and stones will break your bones.
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> :coffee:

I've been trying to tell my mom that for years, RFB, but she doesn't believe me. I should show her that article. 😛

Welcome, Wolf!!! We're glad you're here!! :clap: :good: :bye:

IF the boys give you a hard time let me know...I'll crack out my whip and smack em'. 😉

 
Posted : May 5, 2011 1:13 pm
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Carl-

I'm sorry to say that I do not recall coming across any of those lease plats.

But most of my oil, gas, and mineral research was done in the past few years in Western Kentucky and Northeast Tennessee.

The last field work I did in the Marietta area was in the '70's across the river just west of Waverly, WV. It was the first big job that I was in charge of- photo control, precise horizontal and vertical control, soundings in the Ohio River, boring locations, etc., the whole thing. It was for a major shipping terminal which you can see in Google Earth. Of course, as a surveyor, I was long gone by the time it was built, and I've only seen it in satellite photos!

 
Posted : May 5, 2011 7:38 pm
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Good post, that is definitely a story that would only be believable if it were from the appalachians. Did a survey in Martin, KY a while back that was similar, a little more violent, but very similar.

 
Posted : May 6, 2011 5:33 pm