Anyone going to the Wisconsin Land Surveyor's Institute?

I'll be there tomorrow morning Tom for the Seiler/Trimble gig. I'll stop up and say hi.

How about them Packers!!!! Got the Hallas and now it's on to Dallas.

Go Pack

> I just arrived in the Dells an hour ago...here for our pre Tech day seminar tomorrow...

I'm just guessing here, Tom, based upon the posts of former Wisconsin surveyor, Richard Schaut, but will the tech seminars will be divided into chain-link, board, miscellaneous post and wire, power pole, and pavement?

For Kent....

Kent: I do believe those are the topics that will be covered at the seminar.

There are important differences in the types of fencing materials available and where they fall in the heirarchy of evidence for boundary reconstruction.

Although how anyone can find fences to locate or pavement to split under all this cold white stuff...I do not know.

Good one, Kent. If I had thought ahead I could have had some affadavit pads printed up with the corrected descriptions pre-printed: "Beginning at a fence post; thence along a fence line to a fence post; thence along a fence line to a fence post; thence..." well, you get the idea. Why do I set myself up for further abuse this way?

All of that would be for naught, Steve, if it is not filed in the Miscellaneous Records Section at your local Wisconsin courthouse.

Know your state laws!

Steve

I wouldn't say all for naught because once the fence has been in place for more than the statutory period, it becomes the boundary whether the property owners want it to or not, so the mortgage surveyor from the previous transaction is guilty of slander of title. Remember restrictions on alienation and Cooley's Dictum. If not the surveyor, who? 😉

> All of that would be for naught, Steve, if it is not filed in the Miscellaneous Records Section at your local Wisconsin courthouse.
>
> Know your state laws!

Actually, that would be a great business opportunity for some Wisconsin surveyor who aspires to carry the torch that Richard Schaut has held aloft for these many years. It would be a sort of cadastral MERS. Surveyors from all across the US (and possibly Canada, although I have not yet heard back from Derek Graham on this) could send their corrected descriptions to be filed in the Miscellaneous Records of the designated Wisconsin county. Preferably, it would be some place quite rural where the recorder would like the business, no questions asked - a North woods equivalent of the Cayman Islands, cadastrally speaking. Naturally, since all titles in the United States are allodial and adversely held, the recording statutes of the 50 states may be safely ignored as long as the allodial title holder has designated the surveyor who files the corrected description in Wisconsin as his or her secret agent.

If Richard were still active, it would possibly be even more efficient to have him as the custodian of implied fence agreements, thereby saving the cost of filing fees. I don't know how large his garage is, however.

For Kent....

> Although how anyone can find fences to locate or pavement to split under all this cold white stuff...I do not know.

Well, I'm pretty sure that this is the ideal time of year to be surveying allodial titles. When the ground is frozen, it tends to prevent all attempts to milk the survey by digging for buried evidence that may differ from the adverse possession allodial title boundary.

So... Tom. Aren't you glad you asked? 🙂

See you there!

Yes, Tom, I'll be there.

Go Packers!

Mr. Bryant sure stirred up the clowns, didn't he!

Richard Schaut

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Joking around is one of the greatest forms of flattery.

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> Joking around is one of the greatest forms of flattery.

Sometimes.

Kent-

Thank you for the kind offer to enable Canadian Surveyors an opportunity to provide fence monitoring services to the Great Unwashed.

We do have experienced fence finding Golden Retrievers that accompany our tartan wielding, winter kilted survey crews.

One of the "keys" to a Golden's fence finding prowess, in all four of our seasons, is gender related however.

It seems male Goldens have a unique ability to seek out and use their 'wobbly bits' to find and christen fences on a more upstanding basis than our well trained, but gender challenged female Goldens.

Remaining YOS,

TNAI
(Golden Fence Spotting Services)

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Well of course I am glad I asked!!!

16 degrees and snowing here in Beautiful Wisconsin...