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I've seen old townsite plats like that here in Idaho.?ÿ I think that's the first one I've seen that didn't even show a street dimension though.


 
Posted : July 6, 2022 3:44 pm
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@fairbanksls The?ÿ Gov. Lot owner between him and the lake. The plat shows meanders extending to the gov lot?ÿ he purchased but on the ground the meanders fall short of reaching the lot, likely because those platted meanders are off by hundreds of feet. On the surface the plat is very misleading as it indicates that the meanders were excluded from the aliquot part he bought and hence the gov lot designation but breaking down the section you find the meanders actually to be hundreds of feet short of reaching the lot. Once that BLM survey is patented away out of federal ownership, they wash their hands of it. Caveat Emptor.?ÿ

https://surveyorconnect.com/community/ask-a-surveyor/riparian-lots/#post-578439


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : July 6, 2022 4:08 pm
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Posted by: @ars-mine-surveyor

This is my "favorite" fully developed nightmare!

I've done a few jobs in that sub over the years although none too recently.?ÿ You can't propagate solutions beyond the block you are working in, it never works.?ÿ Best you can hope for is enough evidence to build your block and put your parcel in.

From a Honeoye Lake Watershed Task Force website ( https://www.honeoyelakewatershed.org/history):

In 1924, a syndicate known as the C.L.B. Corporation, which owned the Times Union Newspaper, purchased extensive property on the East Lake Road. A subdivision, comprising hundreds of 20 by 50-foot lots with beach privileges, was established. The cost to a buyer, having a six-month subscription to the Times Union, was $15.00 or $17.50 for the more choice lots. (For this reason, locals to this day call the area the "Times Union Tract".)


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Posted : July 6, 2022 5:52 pm
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Since we've been hitting the problems-with-surveyors theme lately, let's add that the best surveyors run from the areas in greatest need of professionalism.?ÿ I'm in it for the money too, and price myself out of quagmires, but it doesn't sit well with me.

I worked on one in NH where the PLS I worked for was the only one brave or stupid enough to survey. He'd been the only one to set irons and record plats for a couple of decades before the Cadillac crews decided they'd cowboy up and get dirty.?ÿ

There are many instances where indecisiveness is more damaging than potentially poor decisions.?ÿ I'm not advocating for sloppy work, but when the right answer costs more than the lot, something must give.


 
Posted : July 7, 2022 3:48 pm
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We refer to those as "prove me wrong" surveys.?ÿ


 
Posted : July 8, 2022 1:29 pm

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@murphy?ÿ

I hear ya, but I've gotten to the quagmire too many times to keep doing it.

I have one now that I'm regretting, but you've got to push through them.?ÿ

One subdivision is off-limits and I won't consider stepping foot in it again.?ÿ

It's in an expensive area and was done cheaply, the owners thought they were getting deals, they weren't.


 
Posted : July 8, 2022 4:18 pm
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