So far, I believe, no one has mentioned using the areas of the four lots to determine the length of the north section line.?ÿ Time to think about that.
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Maybe......just maybe..........for a section that bears some semblance to what is written in the Field Notes.?ÿ A few miles from where I am setting the Range Line suddenly jumps about 200 feet sideways although the notes would say they kept on the true bearing from Standard Parallel to Standard Parallel.?ÿ Four and a half miles from here the Township Line has a kink of about 300 feet to the left in the last half mile as they supposedly stayed on the true line on the return of their six miles west then six miles back east.?ÿ My home section resembles a bow tie, which is definitely not how it is described in the Field Notes.?ÿ Some of you may be blessed to work in areas where the original surveyors actually cared about doing their work in a competent manner.?ÿ Very close to here is a 12-mile stretch of paved road following the Range Line.?ÿ Each half mile has been surveyed.?ÿ Some half miles are close to 2640 feet while others may be as much as 160 feet short and others may be as much as 300 feet long.?ÿ This experience has led me to believe that some Field Notes are over 50 percent fiction.?ÿ Quite possibly closer to 100 percent.
I wish our sections had been created such that we could believe the Instructions had been followed.
Another PLSS quiz question:
There is a difference between information on the plat and in the field notes; the general rule is one holds over the other,,,,,,which one, the field notes or the plat?
And a follow up: why does the one hold over the other?
I'm in the same boat as you. I had to learn enough about the PLS to pass the test 15 years ago but only get exposed to it nowadays on this discussion board.
"Easier" is definitely not the right word, but honestly, I'm glad to not have to worry about section corners and such.?ÿ
I operate in the "headrights" section of Georgia and occasionally cross over into the neighboring "land lot" section. I like where I am just fine.
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The attached figure uses the coordinates for the origin and the Southwest corner of Section 31 along with the Bearing and Distance (from the plat) from the origin to the Northwest corner of Section 5 to calculate the coordinates of the Northwest corner of Section 5.?ÿ
Note that the Northing is almost 30 feet north of the answers that Bill and Moe got.
If you add up the distances along the South line of Section 31 and subtract 14.70 chains, you get 4313.44 feet. Calculating the same distance from coordinates gives 4311.75 feet, 1.69 feet shorter. The published distances are not on the same line, so that sum should be greater than the calculated distance.
There were obviously many cooks engaged in making this stew, but disentangling the ingredients on a quiz would seem quite a stretch.
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I thought, and think Moe agrees, the NW corner of sec 5 must fall on the line between found and accepted corners of sec 31.?ÿ?ÿ If a monument was found on the west line of sec 5 it would be treated as a reference monument to hold for line, but not for distance; this seems to have happened on the east side of sec 5.
@bill93?ÿ
we bury the found stone in place and set a closing corner on the senior line were the east line extended intersects.
the position of the found stone is important because it is used to establish corners along the east section line. Not the new closing corner.
The closing corner for the NE of Section 5 was set south of the standard line, probably the lost NW section corner was set north of the line. The SE corner of Lot 1 will be prorated between the E1/4 and the found closing corner. Assuming there isn't already an established position for it. This will cause Lot 1 to be larger than the Plat shows. If the NW corner of Section 5 was recovered and was set north of the standard line, the same prorated procedure would happen causing the SW of Lot 4 to shift north towards the standard line and therefore Lot 4 would probably shrink.?ÿ
The prorated position for the lost corner would be used to prorate in the W1/4 and the N1/16 along the west line since the original stone wasn't recovered and it's position is lost.?ÿ
Finding a closing corner monument on the closing line is a unicorn event.?ÿ
I've seen some close. The one that I found which was about 1.5' north of the closing line had a resurvey monument set to be on the closing line. It was about the same distance south of line. Both were marked stones and they were both almost exactly the same type and size as described in the notes. The only way to identify the original was it had CC on the face as described in the notes.?ÿ
Earlier this summer I tied two closing corners for a section, the NE stone was 17' north of the closing line, the NW stone was 2' south. The NW corner's tie was measured to be 1547.5' and record is 1551'. The NE corner's tie measures 1545.3' and record is 1547.7'.
Those kinda numbers are to be celebrated.?ÿ
