Here's a small photoblog of one of my least favorite monuments to set.
I think it was around Wainwright or Barrow, but coulda been Kotz, the military back in the '50s were planning on using nuclear bombs to blast out a deep water port...glad they didn't!
I have 3 of these "frost-free" mons right outside my office window. They were fine until all the electrical went underground, they then removed the power poles that protected the monuments. Snow clearing took out the pvc tops, although the mons are still ok.
You get thru Nome, give me a buzz on my cell 907-229-7024 and we'll go hoist a few adult beverages!:beer: :beer:
-JD-
For sure JD... I'm heading back to Kotz next week...Selawik actually 🙁
Maybe you can put something together for this... 😉
deep sets rod marks here go from 85-120 ft in the swamp,marsh or reclaimed wetlands with the grease sleeve etc.
It is a PIA to set them but they pay good to set them.
After 37 years of setting corners, Im' convinced that it really makes no difference what is set. It will be gone later.
John Harmon
> How Do You Topcon Contest?
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> Maybe you can put something together for this... 😉
> deep sets rod marks here go from 85-120 ft in the swamp,marsh or reclaimed wetlands with the grease sleeve etc.
> It is a PIA to set them but they pay good to set them.
120 ft...yowza...glad I don't have to sink that much. We are required 40 ft. or point of refusal. Bernsten calls point of refusal less than 1 ft. of rod down in over one minute of driving, but if we used that standard we wouldn't get 3 feet in the ground.
I did submit a video to that TOPCON contest in the "funny" category.
But If its like the photo contest it won't amount to much. I won third prize in that one last year but never saw any prize...figured I'd get at least a hat, a plumb bob or something.
> 120 ft...yowza...glad I don't have to sink that much.
Some such monuments set at PDX airport go nearly that deep.
When doing some work for NOAA we were required to set to refusal along the Columbia River. The instructions were to sink it to refusal or 120, which ever came first. If we hit the 120 foot mark then we waited 24 hours to let the ground firm up and then hit it again. We ended up using the whole 120 feet on almost all of them. Really made the stainless steel supplier happy.
Must be all that river sediment...probably quite a ways down to bedrock.
Tim Kent....
tells stories from his younger days of setting section corners in Alaska using rods 25' or longer. Then going back years later and finding them heaved up 20' and waving around in the breeze.
Tim Kent....
> tells stories from his younger days of setting section corners in Alaska using rods 25' or longer. Then going back years later and finding them heaved up 20' and waving around in the breeze.
Ha...I did a dependent resurvey of one of Tim Kents townships in the Dillingham area of Alaska and the entire township was like that.
Tim Kent....
were there dots on the caps? 🙂
Tim Kent....
Touché!
😉
Tim Kent....
> were there dots on the caps? 🙂
Now that right there is funny; I don't care who you are.....:-P 😀
B-)
A six pack for Rankin...
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> It is a PIA to set them but they pay good to set them.
Would you mind sharing a ballpark amount per monument? We had 40 set last year, they were only 20' on average, 5 miles from pt 1 to pt 40. It took them almost 2 mos to set, burn, and run digital level through them. I am curious as to what others fee would be (ballpark of course) for this type of project.
As always, thank you so much for posting.
I really enjoy the videos.
As I just told my wife (boss):
Ahhhhh, someday....
....some other lifetime.
e-living & e-surveying vicariously through your posts.
That is a big word for me.
> Would you mind sharing a ballpark amount per monument? We had 40 set last year, they were only 20' on average, 5 miles from pt 1 to pt 40. It took them almost 2 mos to set, burn, and run digital level through them. I am curious as to what others fee would be (ballpark of course) for this type of project.
I'd allow a couple of hours each to set, maybe 2 miles a day of levelling. So..., less that half that time.
I would think it takes a little longer than 2 hours per monument. First you need to mark them and call for locates. Don't want to hit anything underground. Then you have to auger out the hole, set the outer casing and concrete them in before you actually begin the driving. I would say more like half a day per monument if you even think you may go the full 120 feet. As for the leveling, you should be able to get 2 miles a day easy with a digital level.
> ... First you need to mark them and call for locates.... Then you have to auger out the hole, set the outer casing and concrete them in before you actually begin the driving. I would say more like half a day per monument if you even think you may go the full 120 feet.
20 ft. depth was specified and assumed. Seems to me there would be considerable economics of scale effect when doing a batch of 40.