I'm curious on others thoughts and/or policies on this...
16 years ago, I did a staight-forward property line adjustment survey between 2 parcels in a recorded Partition Plat. It was for a developer who owned both of the original commercial parcels. I didn't tie all of the boundary monuments for each of the 2 original parcels, only the ones needed to monument the new line. I monumented that new line - as required by law - and I recorded the required Record of Survey map. I provided legal descriptions for each of the new parcels. The developer sold one of the parcels (1 ac.+/-) right away and kept the other 4 ac.+/- undeveloped parcel, which he now has for sale.
I received a request from the engineer of a potential buyer, for my CAD file for the record of survey map. He did ask if I was interested in providing a proposal for a topo survey - I'm not. And I'm also not really interested in providing?ÿ a CAD file from a 16 year old survey, the line work of which could be re-created in about 10 minutes, using the data given on my recorded survey map.?ÿ BTW, the developer is OK with me providing the file but understands that he doesn't own the file and can't require me to.
Would you or wouldn't you provide the file and why??
DWG of a record of survey...never
Hard NO on the record of survey.
I provide drawing files for most of my projects but then most of my clients are engineers and that is what they hire me for.?ÿ The exceptions being the occasional private residential survey I get talked into doing or pure ALTA surveys.?ÿ I do not give out CAD files for the actual RS.
In your case, if they awarded the mapping I would most likely include my resolved boundary lines in the provided CAD file.?ÿ I would not just give it to them.
I don't understand why someone would even request the cad file.?ÿ Is it really to save time drawing the boundary??ÿ ?????ÿ
Sure, why not?
Some places seem to think everyone should provide everyone else (or at least them) with anything they ask for at no charge.?ÿ Screw that thought.
I will provide assistance to local surveyors as they assist me in similar fashion.?ÿ But, not to Joe Slobodnik Surveying from Tucumcari, Georgia.
Anything that old my fall back position is going to be that I haven't got the those files anymore. Even if I do.?ÿ I do have field notes and calcs in my files sheets from which I could reproduce the drawing file if necessary. For a fee.?ÿ
A little white lie that is less confrontational than telling them no.?ÿ?ÿ
Dave the OP is in Oregon, a recording state. His survey is freely available to one and all. Sharing the dwg could only result misuse of the data.?ÿ?ÿ
@mark-mayer Indiana is too. ?ÿI have never really understood this attitude. ?ÿI think it is better to share data. ?ÿIt is a move that helps keep us all on the same page.
Exactly! I really could calc the line work for this particular survey in 10 minutes, using the numbers on the ROS...
Just like sandwiches, people can make their own boundaries. And just like sandwiches, someone might come up with something better!
I hope you have a great day down there in St Helens, I know it will be here in Puyallup!?ÿ
I do get the share-data thing and in this case I did share the data with anyone who has internet access or the abilty to go to the County Surveyors office. And if I was going to do a topo and resolve the boundary as part of the scope of work for a project, I would definitely provide the cad file to the client and his consultants.?ÿ
@dave-reynolds and I see no difference in this example. ?ÿMaybe the recorded copy has a typographic error that would quickly be resolved with the cad file in hand and avoid trouble down the road.
@brad-ott if there is an issue with the survey, I'd be more than happy (and IMHO, obligated) to discuss it with whomever discovered it.
In this case, I didn't survey the entire boundary of the each parcel but I did show the un-surveyed boundaries as un-annotated line work. What if I screwed up that un-annotated line work (which wouldn't compromise the property line adjustment that was the objective of the survey in the first place) and they used it for the real thing. It could lead to a mess, which I shouldn't be liable for, but these days, you never know.?ÿ
I do respect your opinion though...
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@dougie it??s not bad in my living room but it??s not too nice outside:-)
@dave-reynolds as I do respect yours as well. ?ÿI also generalized my comments and did not consider the specifics of this particular thread. ?ÿI agree with your approach, in this case.
What if I screwed up that un-annotated line work (which wouldn't compromise the property line adjustment that was the objective of the survey in the first place) and they used it for the real thing.
Along these lines...?ÿ Wouldn't it be best to shoot all the corners of each property??ÿ What if the monuments you used for the adjustment were disturbed??ÿ You might not see that unless you had the full picture of the properties?
I had one company insist I send them my CAD file because they wanted to use my topo data.?ÿ They didn't believe me when I informed them my contour lines were drawn in 2D just like everything else and were based on shots that matched the contour number, not a bunch of random shots.?ÿ I also informed them that a bunch of work had occurred in the three years since my work so much of it would not be valid anyway.