Lately when I start a new drawing my drawing have been getting huge, 3-5 or even 8 MB for a simple drawing that should not be over 300K completed. I start a drawing and then bring in a paper space template from another drawing and notice that the layers are slow to open and check the drawing size and note that the size may already be 1.5 megs before I even get started, I don't know if it is a build up from using some of the same drawing templates over and over. Could someone tell me what to look for or what is causing the size of the new to be so large? I have tried the purge command and it does not seem to change the size very much. What is the correct way to start a new drawing in LDT 2007 to be able to use a prototype? In the old days I would start a new drawing and use the = prototype and my drawing would start out like the prototype.
TIA
Edward L. Killough, NCPLS
Virus, maybe??
Type in PURGE ALL.
When asked to verify, hit the YES TO ALL button.
This gets rid of all unused attributes keeping your drawing so large.
Sometimes resetting the limits on a drawing will reduce the file size. Also try the old "cut it and paste it into a new drawing" trick. 2007 was notorious for creating large files at one time.
Kevin,
I have a new drawing that is already 5.4 MB and tried the PURGE ALL and it is still 5.4 MB, any other ideas?
> Lately when I start a new drawing my drawing have been getting huge, 3-5 or even 8 MB for a simple drawing that should not be over 300K completed. I start a drawing and then bring in a paper space template from another drawing and notice that the layers are slow to open and check the drawing size and note that the size may already be 1.5 megs before I even get started, I don't know if it is a build up from using some of the same drawing templates over and over. Could someone tell me what to look for or what is causing the size of the new to be so large? I have tried the purge command and it does not seem to change the size very much. What is the correct way to start a new drawing in LDT 2007 to be able to use a prototype? In the old days I would start a new drawing and use the = prototype and my drawing would start out like the prototype.
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> TIA
> Edward L. Killough, NCPLS
I'm a little lost, are you bringing in a 'template' or a drawing with paper space? Thay are two different animals.
LDT drawing size and how to reduce it?
One possible cause could be that you're getting a build-up of post-2007 proxy objects.
If you happen to have (or use) Carlson with IntelliCAD, you could start into a desired drawing with all of the desired layers and blocks and then issue the SaveAs command to save back to the original R12 DWG format from the late '90s. This was the last DWG version that didn't store/maintain proxy objects. As such, a DWG saved down to this version would have proxy objects removed from it. Once you have an R12 version, you could then save it up to a 2004 or later format which offered a compressed DWG file size compared to the earlier DWG versions and should then return the drawing to a more reasonable file size.
Although the SaveAS (R12) option in IntelliCAD will get rid of proxy objects, also note that there might be some other casualties (e.g. MTEXT objects and WIPEOUT objects are/were not part of the R12 DWG format).
Please note that most (if not all) versions of AutoCAD since AutoCAD 2004 (if my memory serves me correctly) do not offer the SaveAs R12 DWG option.
If you don't have Carlson with IntelliCAD, feel free to send me your DWG (lnelsonATcarlsonswDOTcom) and I'll see if I can get it compressed for you.
In LDT "prototype" and "template" have distinct and specific meanings. And a border drawing you are inserting to paper space is neither of these.
Nevertheless, try running the RECOVER command on everything. That may fix it.
LDT drawing size and how to reduce it?
Ladd,
Thanks for the reply, I do also have Carlson Survey 2014 but have not gotten proficient at using it yet sense I have used AUTOCAD for the past 26 years I am trying to learn it, but with my work load now it does not leave much time.
Ed
Doug,
I am starting a new drawing from scratch and bringing in the paper space layouts from another drawing that has the border and notes that are to be used for the drawing that I am creating by right clicking the layout tab and selecting from template and I tell it which layout I want from the selected drawing, I would like to create a prototype drawing with these layouts and layers already in it like using the old "= drawing name" that I used to use in older versions.
Ed
Norman,
I ran the recover and it did not change the file size, it said all objects were valid.
Thanks,
Ed
cptdent,
I was doing that but got away from it because it was so much easier to have the layout pop into place and not have to zoom in real tight and move the border to fit the layout. I am trying now to determine at what point the drawing changes from a normal size. I have created a test drawing and it is 54k before I start to work in it and will try your way and the way I am doing it now to determine what makes it change.
Thanks,
Ed
That would be known as creating a drawing template file or a *.dwt. Simply open a new drawing in your Carlson and enter all of the layer names and set ups that you desire along with any and all other little deals you want such as specific blocks, etc.
Once you have that all done, go to the "Save As" menu and save it as "Ekillo.dwt",or whatever you want to call it. From that point on, use the "NEW" option under the "File" menu to start all new drawings. You will be taken to a window to select the *.dwt" of your choice. Select your newly created custom file and proceed as usual and everything should be there.
The "Prototype" drawing of earlier versions has become the *.dwt in the newer versions.
Secondly, where are you located? There are bound to be some guys in your area that will be willing to help you out and get you into Carlson. If you are in the Mississippi area, I will be glad to help get you started.
Nate,
On a side note, thanks for the link to the eagles, it has been interesting watching them grow up.
Ed
instead of right clicking the layout tab, try to write block only what you want to bring into your new drawing and insert at 0,0 in tilemode 0. It appears to me that you are importing unnecessary attributes that results in a larger drawing size.
If your basesheet is a block, and you are using REFEDIT each time to change the text, and your REFEDIT settings are set to make a copy each time you edit, that could be the cause. I don't have a computer in front of me now, but somebody who does might chime in here and tell you how to change the settings. Then run the OVERKILL (I think that's the command), to purge out all the duplicate objects you have created.
Another potential problem may be Registered Applications that have attached themselves to your drawing. The only way to get rid of them is to use the old command line PURGE command. Enter -purge at the command line. One of the options will be "Regapps"
the only thing i can think of is to explode your template (you could purge after exploding at this stage too) and create a new block selecting the specific elements of the layout you need and then cut and paste this block. the template block you have might have unwanted properties associated with it from previous jobs.
Thanks everybody, I have several things to try. I need to get this solved because I have to furnish a drawing to the client and an 8MB drawing caused it to run a lot slower than one with 2-300k as they should be.
Let us know how it all shakes out. It will be interesting to find out what the fix finally was.
