One of the tricks I use when plotting old deeds in poles is just to plug in the description as-is, then scale it up by 16.5. Saves a lot of converting.
@eddycreek i will have to learn how to do that. I had another job come in today. Description read N30 deggees 40 feet 30 inchesW 254.23 feet to a point. Over and over. Just a typo I reckon or some legal automated stuff no one checked. Your scale trick seems neat. Thank you. I have not tried to scale any one parcel before. But the math sounds great and probably quicker than me doing it long hand. I cannot remember what the old dos software was but you could input whatever units it was in doing deed comps and run a routine and it would convert it with a graphics picture not like cad graphics just a visual like graphing in a old hp type look. I remember hand entering all our set ups for traverses and such years ago. Was a rainy day task. Trimble kind-upsets me as they have chains as a unit of choice but not poles. I have no idea if cad has any of those guessing not since you do the scale trick.
well hell..
at 0.003 likely rounded up from 0.0027865...
you'll have to push around a lot of parcels to make a big deal happen to add up to more than the width of a rebar and cap...
on the other hand maybe you can get a new boss...
@jitterboogie well its not so much the little error but the why. If i draw a line 200.00 ft or 900.00 ft where is the rounding coming from. I could see if i did some computation that had rounding in it but when i say go this bearing exact and this distance exact why. My gut tells me some setting is not right somewhere. Or i did something unknowingly when moving and rotating the deed to check. Or somehow maybe when I attached the deed to a point it did some elevation 3d thingy or what. I have come along way from looking at numbers way further out and now getting use to mostly two or 3 decimals lol. 1 nano second from a satellite error is like .8 ft on the ground roughly. And i had to worry about that. 1 second was very bad if we messed up. One if the most stressful things was dealing with the leap second turnover. When it went i. You could have heard a mouse fart waiting to make sure it was right lol.
I thought the item in the orange box created the survey figures which should also double as the breaklines, but that's apparently not the case as the workflow in this office is to then go into the surface, select all survey figures, and then add them to the breakline group.
The more I think about this the more I'm guessing we're doing stuff... inefficiently
That works, but what do you do when you import new survey figures? Do you create duplicate breaklines?
I'm not at work at the moment, but what you need to do is right click on the survey figures header under your import event in the survey database. There will be on option to create breaklines from figures which will pop up a window with all of the survey figures created as part of that import event. The correct ones should be pre-selected based on how you setup your survey figures. Click ok and then one more Ok and you're done. It takes less than 30 seconds to create breaklines from any import event.
Any ideas what rookie mistake i made. And i just learned the list command today. Lol
Consider doing all your drafting/cogoing in Civil3d. We cogo maps and deeds and easements daily and save each one in a master database by T-R-S before inserting it into your drawing file. Civil3d is much more efficient to do this type of work in.
We've had TBC since it's came out and use it exclusively to process survey data, which it does a great job at. TBC tries to do way too much IMO.
Your issue is most likely a block insertion unit setting. I have seen odd issues like that when copying and pasting from LDD to Civil3d. Civil3d is converting your data for you unknowingly. I've never drawn any lines in TBC but maybe I'll test it tomorrow and see.
@wa-id-surveyor are you cogoiing the deeds in civil 3d or just drawing them by bearing and distance. I use the cogo routine in tbc as it allows me to name each parcel add points descriptions etc as i go. So sending out a dxf and or points file for searches and i have the labeling done has everything with it and i export it out as a 2018 dwg then tried first the ddinsert to my working drawing and that flopped but I think I figured that out a setting was international feet in civil so it shifted. Then i used the ctrl shift c and ctrl v everything landed like it should. Our guys have a fxl code library in Trimble Access. I simply re run it for auto linework and correct codes. I have done some basic drafting like filit extend etc and computation is much easier for me right now as i am learning where everything is in civil. The thing is I keep both running as if i do something new in civil I check myself in tbc. I am sure once I figure out the civil beast it will be fine. It just seems to me a lot of clicks or typing and enter enter enter to do simple stuff. The other thing i like about the cogo thing is like i had a old deed and plat that was hard to read so i made educated guesses on numbers running through it. I found a better copy and could just open that one and go to the line not drafting line but key in line or arc edit and it redraws on the fly. Also saves me on when starting at the oldest working to present when things change like a line was vacated etc. i can just truck along. One older cad guy said civil had something similar like a create cogo command. I need to look it up and try it. You can even do side shots as you go around the parcel for adjoiners or reference marks etc. tbc is like a data collector in some ways create points by bearing and distance all those things we have done for ever that comes in handy with just a few entries. The cad command line is not bad but it’s been years so i am not the best judge. Easy for me i guess. I been importing linestyles from our civil to make it match. Playing and learning is all. And all my raw data and drafting is easy to organize by view filters layeroor layer groups. I took some old data and built some sheet sets like 4 with only the data I needed very easily by saving different view filters. I need some formal training on both softwares but we barely have time to get something out the door. I will mention That block scale thing to my boss he might understand that. He could have some setting on his machine. Who knows.
That works, but what do you do when you import new survey figures? Do you create duplicate breaklines?
New survey figures? As in adding to an existing drawing? If I add something to a drawing I'll typically go in and manually select those new survey figures and add them as a separate breakline group, or just manually flip the faces if it's a small area. But I've had coworkers mention running into duplicate breaklines, so it sounds like this workflow trips them up some of the time.
I'm not at work at the moment, but what you need to do is right click on the survey figures header under your import event in the survey database. There will be on option to create breaklines from figures which will pop up a window with all of the survey figures created as part of that import event. The correct ones should be pre-selected based on how you setup your survey figures. Click ok and then one more Ok and you're done.
Woooow, that sounds really slick. I'm definitely gonna test this out because occasionally I run into a problem with Civil 3D where it deselects everything I have selected as soon as I initiate a command (I like to select things first and then execute the command rather than the other way around). This method sounds like it would completely bypass that bug.
I would pose these questions on one or more of the AutoCAD Civil 3D forums/sites.
One of the tricks I use when plotting old deeds in poles is just to plug in the description as-is, then scale it up by 16.5. Saves a lot of converting.
Except that most of those descriptions also contain links or fractional chains
Woooow, that sounds really slick. I'm definitely gonna test this out because occasionally I run into a problem with Civil 3D where it deselects everything I have selected as soon as I initiate a command (I like to select things first and then execute the command rather than the other way around). This method sounds like it would completely bypass that bug.
Do that after every import event to create breaklines from survey figures.
For the issue of the inserted linework, check the DWGUNITS. Here is mine.
-DWGUNITS
Drawing units:
1. Inches
2. Feet
3. Millimeters
4. Centimeters
5. Decimeters
6. Meters
Unit for length <2>:
Drawing unit display formats:
1. Scientific
2. Decimal
Linear display format <2>:
Linear display precision <2>:
Scale objects from other drawings upon insert? [Yes/No] <No>:
Match INSUNITS to drawing units? [Yes/No] <No>:
For the issue of the inserted linework, check the DWGUNITS. Here is mine.
DWGUNITS is not a thing. "UNITS" is. If you enter the word UNITS at the command line you get a dialog box that is labelled "Drawing Units". If you precede the word with a dash (ie/ -UNITS) you get the command line version, which is as you describe it.
In C3d it is well to go to the Settings tab of the Toolspace and right click on the current drawing name at the top of the list, select "Edit Drawing Settings", and then the "Ambient Settings" tab of the dialog box that pops up. There you will find a host of settings that command attention. The other tabs are worth spending time with as well.
@norman-oklahoma Beg to differ, that was a copy and paste straight from my Civi3d 2023 command line.
Try -dwgunits
